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Title: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on May 12, 2011, 10:03:46 am
Auction Hall is in chapter 7 where you can bid items. There are some other computers who buy items as well. The prices will be a lot higher than normally.

So what items you would like to buy from there? There should be items that you missed in early chapters and can be bough here.


Currently there are(prices are not accurate):

- Falchion: 3,000
- Tzitorin: 1,000
- Juggernaut Armor: 2,000
- Mana Gem: 1000
- Health Gem: 1000
- Anaho Relic: 1,000
- Magic Shackles: 2,500
- Decimation: 2,000
- Rogue's Hood: 1,500
- Azure Visage: 2,000
- Ring Of Tides: 3,000
- Endless Potion: 1,000
- Platinum Ring: 1,000
- Restore Life: 6,000
- Restore Mana: 6,000
- Killer's Armor: 1,500
- Amulet Of Great Magic: 4,000
- Amulet Of Great Life: 4,000
- Amulet Of Life: 2,000
- Amulet Of Magic: 2,000
- Golden Shovel: 2,000


ONCE:

- Second part of Holgro: 1,000
- Magic Orb: 3,000
- Lightning Boots: 1500
- Lightning Gloves: 1500
- Lightning Shield: 1500
- Lightning Stone: 1500
- Cursed Blade: 10,000
- Doom Helmet: 10,000
- Exepede: 4,000
- Pete's Pipe: 3,000
- Sack Of Endless Food: 5,000
- Book Of Regeneration: 5,000
- Power Hammer: 5,000
- Sword Of Haste: 5,000
- Ice Crystal: 5,000
- Greedy Bastard: 5,000
- Skull Shield: 5,000
- Master Key: 1,000
- Healing Pentagram: 10,000
- Ragnarok: 40,000
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: AdmOrian on May 12, 2011, 07:56:50 pm
Will get back to you with a list shortly, awesome idea!

P.S. I hope I won't have to wait forever to see if I win/lose. Maybe make it live auction style once player bids on an item :) With the whole going once, going twice, Sold!
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Pourquoi on May 12, 2011, 11:03:47 pm
1. Azureus, Miraga, Maragath and Archeon set pieces, but only if they weren't bought in the previous chapters.
2. Icy Crystal.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on May 12, 2011, 11:26:59 pm
It will be like this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=616H1rr48iA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Takes too much effort to check if player have or not those sets. I don't know if I should add those sets, it's been bothering me.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: AdmOrian on May 13, 2011, 12:01:26 am
First off, let me say I watched the vid and I absolutely LOVE the idea. I am not on my normal computer but when I am I will try to compile a list of about 7 unique items (some may be items needed for synthesis recipes that weren't in prior game version before and might have been discarded by players who thought they had little value) with about 2-3 truly unique items, that might help a person craft a new powerful synthesis item right away. And about 6 common items that are just useful maybe throw a gem in there. For meta gaming purposes since not everyone plays it threw enough times to know which items only come up once. Maybe have the auctioneer mention that they only have 1 of this "insert rarity" item.

Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on May 13, 2011, 07:54:08 am
Yea there will be items that can be bought infinitely and items that can be bought only once.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Pourquoi on May 13, 2011, 09:51:52 am
Hmm... What about Lightning Set pieces? They're quite hard to obtain (require 9 Luck in the early chapters!), so it would be nice if they appear in the Auction Hall.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: AdmOrian on May 13, 2011, 01:25:49 pm
Ok, here is a list of items I compiled that would be nice to see in the auction house.

Unique:
      //Sythesis Items and Set Pieces: Include only if not already found somewhere in chapter
      Azureus Armor OR Relic (whichever is not already found in chapter)
      Last Demon Set Piece
      Amulet of Great Magic
     
      //Include 2 new items that will help build things I don't know about, 1 should be used for something Very powerful.

      //Items that may have been missed, sold, or unacquirable based on moral choices or package choices.
      Necromancer's Staff
      Golden Claws (I know I sold mine, in 1 of my games, because at the time they weren't used in any recipe.)
      Toxic Sting
      Ice Crystal (150 stacked)

      //Because they are very popular items and no auction house is complete without at least 1!
      Greater Magic Ball

Common:
      Mana Gem
      Health Gem
      Tower Shield
      Silver Set
      Potion of Experience
      "insert 2 more random items here!"



That should just about do it!

P.S. Can't wait for chapter 7, but don't rush it out the door!
P.S.S. What on earth do the Elemental Circles do, right now they seem worthless.
     
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on May 13, 2011, 03:10:49 pm
Hmm... What about Lightning Set pieces? They're quite hard to obtain (require 9 Luck in the early chapters!), so it would be nice if they appear in the Auction Hall.

Fine. Lightning Set added.

Ok, here is a list of items I compiled that would be nice to see in the auction house.

Unique:
      //Sythesis Items and Set Pieces: Include only if not already found somewhere in chapter
      Azureus Armor OR Relic (whichever is not already found in chapter)
      Last Demon Set Piece
      Amulet of Great Magic
     
      //Include 2 new items that will help build things I don't know about, 1 should be used for something Very powerful.

      //Items that may have been missed, sold, or unacquirable based on moral choices or package choices.
      Necromancer's Staff
      Golden Claws (I know I sold mine, in 1 of my games, because at the time they weren't used in any recipe.)
      Toxic Sting
      Ice Crystal (150 stacked)

      //Because they are very popular items and no auction house is complete without at least 1!
      Greater Magic Ball

Common:
      Mana Gem
      Health Gem
      Tower Shield
      Silver Set
      Potion of Experience
      "insert 2 more random items here!"



That should just about do it!

P.S. Can't wait for chapter 7, but don't rush it out the door!
P.S.S. What on earth do the Elemental Circles do, right now they seem worthless.
   

Oookay... I added some items.

I don't know yet what Elemental Circles are for.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Pourquoi on May 13, 2011, 06:49:51 pm
These items too:
- Anaho Relic
- The items that require 10 Luck in Lucky Boxes
- Skull Shield
- Magic Shackles
- Shard of Shadows
They either: require a specific moral choice (Anaho Relic), require high Luck, or easily missable (Shard of Shadows).
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: AdmOrian on May 14, 2011, 10:43:08 am
Oooh, ya I have to 2nd Shard of Shadows... getting that is tricky at best.

Also if Apocalypse is going to be used in a recipe that should be sold at auction too.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on May 14, 2011, 05:09:20 pm
I'm not gonna add items that are found from chapter 6 and over(except few items). So no no for Shard of Shadow and Apocalypse.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: AdmOrian on May 14, 2011, 08:25:43 pm
Does that mean I probably won't get a chance to win my Amulet of Great Magic?
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on May 15, 2011, 04:21:40 am
I'm not sure about that item... That item I can add to Auction Hall actually.

But it can be stolen from chapter 6's epic boss in the next version.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Pourquoi on May 15, 2011, 07:26:17 am
I'm not gonna add items that are found from chapter 6 and over(except few items). So no no for Shard of Shadow and Apocalypse.
I can't see a reason not to add the easily missable Shard of Shadows.
Your reason made no sense whatsoever.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: AdmOrian on May 15, 2011, 10:31:42 am
@Aero: Cool, I do think it's a nicer way to offer players who missed content that wasn't there a chance to get some of the more needed items!


I was thinking of 2 things that would be good to have for the auction house. One, there should be a way to skip a particular auction if you aren't interested, just like in his video. Two, as I see the list of obtainable items grow it becomes very important to when they list the item also have the item stats viewable so that the player knows what they are bidding on.

You may have already incorporated both of these things, but if not I highly recommend them!
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on May 15, 2011, 03:55:46 pm
I'm not gonna add items that are found from chapter 6 and over(except few items). So no no for Shard of Shadow and Apocalypse.
I can't see a reason not to add the easily missable Shard of Shadows.
Your reason made no sense whatsoever.

That's an item that will never be upgraded to any powerful item(synthesis or item set). I just don't like to put this item to Auction Hall. Plus it will bug if there are two of this item(some items bug if there are more than one).

@Aero: Cool, I do think it's a nicer way to offer players who missed content that wasn't there a chance to get some of the more needed items!


I was thinking of 2 things that would be good to have for the auction house. One, there should be a way to skip a particular auction if you aren't interested, just like in his video. Two, as I see the list of obtainable items grow it becomes very important to when they list the item also have the item stats viewable so that the player knows what they are bidding on.

You may have already incorporated both of these things, but if not I highly recommend them!

Yea well I'm not 100% sure yet how this will work. Actually I'm not going to do this system. But yeah it should be pretty fast, fun and not boring.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Pourquoi on May 30, 2011, 11:51:10 pm
What about Azureus set pieces (except Armor and Relic)? They're very expensive for first-timers, so it could be nice.
And Master Key?
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on June 02, 2011, 12:44:59 pm
Hmm.

Master Key is fine. Added!
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Pourquoi on June 15, 2011, 05:03:49 am
How about Necromancer Staff?
(Especially important, as part of Chromatig)
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on June 15, 2011, 11:11:37 am
That item you can buy from chapter 6 if I remember right.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Pourquoi on June 15, 2011, 09:03:41 pm
No.
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on June 16, 2011, 10:39:44 am
Well, now it's there!
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Pourquoi on August 17, 2011, 08:51:17 am
You also should add the new starting items to the Auction Hall.
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Takes too much effort to check if player have or not those sets. I don't know if I should add those sets, it's been bothering me.
Actually I've been thinking about this...
For example, initially variable 'A' is set to 0. However, after the Azureus Ring is purchased in chapter 1, variable 'A' is set to 1. Then, in chapter 7, the game then checks if variable 'A' is 0 or 1. If it's 0, then Azureus Ring is added to the Auction Hall. If it's 1, then do nothing.
Could that work?
(Again, I'm not very good when it comes to WE triggers, so I'm not sure if that could work. However, if the player has bought the item but then sold/dropped it, then it's obvious that they don't need the item, and there's no need to add the item to the Hall again.)
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Aeroblyctos on August 17, 2011, 03:40:39 pm
This could be done but it's a lot work to check everything. There are maybe 10 sets and I would also have to check if there are higher parts too(synthesis).

There are so many excellent items I still not see this useful: in the next version there will be a lot of new items!
Title: Re: What items to Auction Hall?
Post by: Pourquoi on August 17, 2011, 11:52:13 pm
Nah, I think only Azureus set and Shard of Shadows are needed. Other items are just too hard to miss.
That's only 6 items!