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Title: **** End
Post by: matias371 on January 18, 2015, 09:51:59 pm
Finally I could beat Xvareon and Zylcious!!! Yeaahhhh

TY for last update 2.1c, 7 hours on ch 10, all monstrosities, all bosses, Ibot ohhh man that popag I know that I save him first time from roots, but I couldn't find him once more.

After Zylcious' fight I can't dig anymore nor see new books (Uummut and Zylcious).

I wanted to see a lot of times the questions that I can ask at final of Epic quest, but after choose 1 time a question, next try the menu of that question will be blocked.

Next time I will try to get more morality to discover the right End of story. One finally question, it's possible fight against John ch 5 and believe in William? I mean, I can get plus morality and don't lose the Epic quest?

TY for this amazing game.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Tears on January 19, 2015, 06:17:50 am
BIG CONGRATULATIONS!

Can you make a guide on how to defeat Zylcious last phase? I beat Uummut and all other phases easily (well, not so easy because there're lots of lag), but I just can't beat his final phase.

After destroy all his MP, I just can't beat him quick enough. When he stands on green ground, his HP recovers like hell, it's like hundred thousands hp / sec @@. And it's just like that, I beat him for 2m of health and he recovers. The longer the fight, the more items I lose and more green ground appear. I quit after nearly 1 hour trying to beat him.

About chapter 5: Kanzas and Epic quest are 2 completely different quests. You can trigger Epic quest by walking into the Inn and choose "Latest News". Then it doesn't matter who you choose to believe.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: matias371 on January 19, 2015, 09:44:47 pm
TY Tears I will do it on Walkthroughs thread, I know that your a great support of this campaign and I will try to help you with that beast.

At least, I think I owe Aero for his great determination to do this project, and I don't believe to even deserved to be mentioned in the credits. I went as apprentice who just a month ago learned to use the "give up" command, can you believe that, all time I always started to play with 0 resources XD.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on January 20, 2015, 07:25:00 am
Enemies standing in green should get 6000-12000 health per 0,5 second otherwise there is a bug. I think I fixed this bug yesterday and will do new version soon.

But yeah gratz gratz gratz for beating the campaign. Did you see the secret ending(requires 10,000 Game Points)? That really gives shivers.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Tears on January 20, 2015, 11:26:32 am
I finished the game with 18k game pts but its not different from what I saw before. Is it a interlude? Or it is the epilogue? Last time I didn't choose to watch epilogue because I think its just a cinematic map. If there is any secret ending, it must be in chapter 10. Am I wrong?
 
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on January 20, 2015, 03:02:05 pm
I finished the game with 18k game pts but its not different from what I saw before. Is it a interlude? Or it is the epilogue? Last time I didn't choose to watch epilogue because I think its just a cinematic map. If there is any secret ending, it must be in chapter 10. Am I wrong?
The secret ending is in epilogue of course!
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: matias371 on January 20, 2015, 11:17:35 pm
But yeah gratz gratz gratz for beating the campaign. Did you see the secret ending(requires 10,000 Game Points)? That really gives shivers.
TY Aero, mmm I just don't know if I could see secret ending, I had 12391 points, then I guess so. In any case, I saw a super emotive Epilogue.

But I read on another post (http://tcocampaign.createaforum.com/index.php?topic=1073.msg7331#msg7331 (http://tcocampaign.createaforum.com/index.php?topic=1073.msg7331#msg7331)) that there is 2 different endings depending of your morale. My morality was 0 at this point. Did you develop the final ending with morality trigger? I mean, if I can get more morale, could I see an improved ending?

If not. tell me what is the purpose of Morality stats.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on January 21, 2015, 03:56:21 am
0 and minus morality gives for Phodom "bad ending".
1 or more gives for Phodom "good ending".
10,000 or more Game Points gives for Phodom "secret / true ending".

All this happens in epilogue.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Tears on January 21, 2015, 10:02:08 am
@@ so it's really in Epilogue?
~_~
~__~
~___~
~_____________________________~

I'm gonna fight Xvareon again to watch this secret ending.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on January 22, 2015, 03:37:29 am
@@ so it's really in Epilogue?
~_~
~__~
~___~
~_____________________________~

I'm gonna fight Xvareon again to watch this secret ending.
Where else? The campaign ends in epilogue and it's "secret ending" or something.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Tears on January 22, 2015, 11:56:11 am
I've just restarted chapter 10 in 2.1d and finished Xvareon again, but the Epilogue I saw is just... not different from what I saw before (when I have just about 4-5k gp compares to 17k gp now).

What I saw:
- Some talk between those dragons
- Phodom's nightmare (maybe this is bad ending for Phodom)
- Some talk between Fradz and Phodom
- Some talk between Galeoth and the other trio
- Powerful goodbye music and wonderful effects
- Credits, very long credits
- Some talk between Zhitenxa, Yurgimar and his son
- Random speeches from characters in the game, even longer than the credit itself
- Black screen

=> Is the secret ending included in my list?
=> What should I do with the Stone of Destiny I stole from Xvareon? I put it in Phodom inventory but it seems to do nothing, not affect the ending in anyway ~~ Is it an.... easter egg?
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on January 23, 2015, 01:38:39 pm
Yea actually this bugs I just saw. Haha.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Tears on January 23, 2015, 07:38:05 pm
I think you should add some text like: secret ending unlocked. Just like heroic achievement and eastern eggs. Do the same with sad and happy endings for Phodom.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on January 24, 2015, 01:47:08 pm
Yeah and same for interludes too...
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: angky5p on January 27, 2015, 05:47:57 am
I don't find any secret ending on my game (same cinematic with tears).
Can you spoil it because I might don't have time anymore to play I guess and I don't know if I have 10000 game points or not because i only played it once so I might not get it (sometimes game points get bugged too and got reset).

Actually you have cheat at zylcious fight (save and load).
Save the game when you in the middle of the fight and load it again and all green grounds will disappeared.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on January 28, 2015, 05:39:04 am
I don't find any secret ending on my game (same cinematic with tears).
Can you spoil it because I might don't have time anymore to play I guess and I don't know if I have 10000 game points or not because i only played it once so I might not get it (sometimes game points get bugged too and got reset).

This is very easy bug to fix and will be fixed for the next version. Send me a PM with few question and I can answer.


Actually you have cheat at zylcious fight (save and load).
Save the game when you in the middle of the fight and load it again and all green grounds will disappeared.

Hmm, I see.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: matias371 on February 03, 2015, 11:26:57 pm
Ok this time No Give Up finally. I didn't need to load Xvareon's fight, but Zylcious omg, a lot, like 5 loads is the most dangerous boss of game, second is super Uummuut and if you don't get Zylcious' Staff, Xvareon's fight could be impossible.

Good ending for Phodom with a sweet dream. Not enough points to see secret ending. I only lost Ghost quest of ch 6 and Ibot quest (sometimes I can't find him in the spot across the river, bug?), so the maximum Game Points No Give Up are around 6 or 6.5k

Second image of most overwhelming dialogue of Xvareon didn't appear this time, it was a previous finish game with enough game points.

I'm thinking that dialogue could be about Stones' of Destiny and Yurgimar besides Yardeniox are secretly gathering them to "know who are they". So that dragons are hiding something, not only seeking the peace of Oelivert but them own convenience.

Epilogue works fine this time.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 08, 2015, 04:43:38 pm
Am i allowed to cheat at chapter 10?!
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on February 09, 2015, 05:00:55 am
Very nice job, matias371.

Am i allowed to cheat at chapter 10?!
Of course not. How so?
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: AdmOrian on February 10, 2015, 01:53:09 pm
@xhonisr

It's a single player game there are always a plethora of ways to cheat or hack the game while it's running. Will the game ban hammer you if it catches you? Absolutely! : ) Where would the fun be in making it so easy that you just needs Blizz cheats : P?

Is it fair to cheat? Well it's not the way the game is intended, but if it enhances your fun then you can try ; )


Note: The ban hammer only lasts until you load, so you don't have to worry about it wiping out the game cache unless it was changed : P


Edit: I would absolutely like to add that  IF YOU CHEAT, please don't post a picture of your deeds on the heroic achievements board unless you also list what cheating was used. It takes away credit from those who legitimately were a boss and beat up the game : )
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 10, 2015, 04:03:48 pm
oh i dont inteend to post photos of that im saying if i can cheat to buy like 1kk life points to get over the bosses im playing this campaing for many years never cheated and im just 2 sad now that the campaign is over .is just not a simple campaign to me is the best part of wc3 i wish u could make something similar to this game  someday and u must continue ur book i hope it become a bestseller and im not talking about blizz cheats  :D
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on February 10, 2015, 04:48:48 pm
So what? You can buy unlimited amount of lives at chapter 10 or what?
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: AdmOrian on February 10, 2015, 05:35:42 pm
Ah you just wish you could finish the story at long last I can understand that : )

I'm sure you will find a way, good luck : )
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 10, 2015, 06:47:54 pm
nah i can cheat all over the campaign i was just asking for permision :(
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 10, 2015, 07:01:17 pm
gold.honor,lives,hp,mp,stats,items,etc etc
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 10, 2015, 07:24:13 pm
yes i want to finish after a long long time  ;D
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on February 10, 2015, 07:56:32 pm
With "Child's Play" you're allowed to cheat. Can you do that otherwise...?
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 10, 2015, 09:57:22 pm
alrdy did at all the categories  :o
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 10, 2015, 09:58:57 pm
im missing 3 quests at chapter 10 to end it once and for all
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 10, 2015, 10:01:21 pm
I hope u make another campaign that doesnt take a life time
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 10, 2015, 10:23:15 pm
and actually a game that was created 13 years ago is a child play for me if u know what i mean
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: AdmOrian on February 10, 2015, 11:36:54 pm
Oh ok, then you already know what you are doing : P


@Aeroblyctos

Yes there are many ways to cheat. It sounds to me like he found the debug codes by opening the campaign somehow, or maybe an older version of it had the codes too.

But besides that Cheat Engine is an excellent memory hacking tool that works on 99% of single player games and can be used to hack almost any numeric element, and of course the speed at which time passes. Those aren't the only ways to hack games but they are the 2 simplest in this case : )

Although he implies that he is far more proficient than needed to hack most games ; ) But rest assured the game is secure enough for the average player not to have any easy ways to cheat, outside of picking Child's Play : P
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 11, 2015, 11:45:41 am
ur answers sucks
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 11, 2015, 12:03:57 pm
1st hacking is not a childs play and im not a fcking threat so dont take me as one .the reason why i talked about cheats is cuz the campaign is over now and not many new people will start to play  this game at this time.It would be much much easier to make a walkthrough video on youtube about the campaign using cheats and that would suck a lot .I just said that there are some ways to cheat and i  asked for permission to use them not cuz i fcking cant i just asked for permision and he said yes so where the problem .....
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: AdmOrian on February 11, 2015, 12:28:09 pm
My apologies if any of that came off as insulting : )


First let me say I have say I have a lot of respect for hackers. Now what I did was a mental security review of the system so that Aero would know what cheating was or was not possible : )

I had no intention of implying you were a threat. You are a great guy who asked permission before cheating in a single player game, that is very rare and very honest I actually like that! : )


Second the security review was done because I enjoy the thought experiments that revolve around security analysis, so it's like a fun game in itself : )


Lastly I think some confusion may have been caused by your understand of my sentences? Is it possible that even though your English is good that you misunderstood certain parts? For example the only mention of the word Child's Play was not in regards to hacking; it was listing the only provisioned way to cheat. You may have noticed when looking at the difficulty settings if you select Child's Play it actually says Blizzard Cheats are Enabled on that difficulty.

Now I hope you have a wonderful day and enjoy the campaign thoroughly xhonisr : )
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 11, 2015, 02:47:34 pm
u should work on a program that blocks any other program that using wc3 that will work to stop people on cheating using programs but u alrdy know about that and 2nd u have to do smth about the security of map is very easy to over pass the protection of the map so u must put a virus into it so if anyone tries to change anything on that the virus will destroy the map. the best way to protect ur ideas is using weapons not shields :P hope u can do that
(P.S my english sucks )
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: AdmOrian on February 11, 2015, 04:17:21 pm
Haha that's entertaining : P

And online multiplier games try to do some of that Blizzard for example in World of Warcraft tried to use a program named Warden to detect any other cheating programs and ban anyone who used them, especially bots. They also protected their maps and other data by only storing it server side, much simpler than a virus, since a virus has to run to do it's job those tend to mostly only be effective while they have the element of surprise : )
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 12, 2015, 03:37:53 pm
Virus can work without internet connection :P that warden u say u need to connect to servers is a bit hard to creat such a program and a pain in the ass when u want to upgrade ur map cuz its cause problems but anything can be fixed .but cheating in this campaign is the last option cuz is more fun playing it without cheats
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 12, 2015, 03:39:17 pm
And will Gheiz continue the campaign or did i understand it wrong?!
(P.S pls hell me with the Optional quest of Chapter 10 im stucked here to find the last 3 :P)
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 12, 2015, 03:44:18 pm
And can u tell me a good Recorder to record the campaign cuz i need to make a walkthrough
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: matias371 on February 12, 2015, 06:21:43 pm
Ask for what quest do you need, and I can help you, although this is not the thread to ask for help.

I heard Xsplit is a good recorder, but it doesn't run in my XP OS XD. I wanted to do a walkthrough of Yurgimar battle in no give-up, in order to grateful Angky5 for his walkthrough.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 12, 2015, 06:53:11 pm
nah i changed my mind i hate to make walkthroughs :P
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: xhonisr on February 12, 2015, 06:55:46 pm
hmm actually i dont need help :P i have finished the game alrdy in all the categories but im missing few optional quests in ch10
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: hauw on February 15, 2015, 11:44:25 am
the campaign is over now
I hope u make another campaign that doesnt take a life time

You're just an ****, a spoiled 13 yrs old, and an attention ****.
If you're at least 18 yrs old that made you twice as much an **** and attention ****.
What contribution do you have that gave you the right to criticize development time?
At least think of the developer's efforts before pulling some sarcasm.

I just said that there are some ways to cheat and i  asked for permission to use them not cuz i fcking cant i just asked for permision and he said yes so where the problem .....

Cut the crap already!
If you can prove hack then send PM or email to Aero.
If you can't then stop attention whoring.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Erkki2 on February 20, 2015, 06:51:23 am
I just finished the campaing on ****. At this point, I'd really want to thank Aeroblyctos and everyone who has participated in making this awesome campaign, I had the most fun I've ever had with wc3. :)
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: AdmOrian on February 20, 2015, 06:15:52 pm
Nice job! And I totally agree Aero did a brilliant job!! : D


Although a few numbers in your screenshot did give me pause : P

1,000,000 Gold
176 Hours Played (this chapter)
infinite Level Alchemy
500 Honor (unspent)

Anyway grats on finishing and I'm glad you had a blast, I know I have! : )
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: hauw on February 22, 2015, 02:10:16 am
Can someone ban this loser? I'm not going to waste my time with him.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Tears on February 22, 2015, 08:17:39 am
Can someone ban this loser? I'm not going to waste my time with him.

I can't agree more. 22-year old but yet he thinks he's the wisest creature ever. Almost all people here is older than him and yet he showed no respects. This kind of people should be banned from Oelivert and Earth once and forever.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Pourquoi on February 24, 2015, 07:21:34 am
Huh. I'm gone for awhile and this is what we've got into. Maybe having the forum being off-limits for 7 days might change this noob's behaviour.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: AdmOrian on February 26, 2015, 02:35:51 am
Wow! That's reproachable behavior, sorry you had to put with that from someone on this forum hauw.

I'm not sure a 7 day ban would mean much considering the average flow of posts and such, but I think we all agree what he did is not ok.


I hope you all have a wonderful day and I'm glad you guys have enjoyed the campaign! : ) I know most of you guys are really awesome! Stay awesome in a world with lots of not awesomeness and you will brighten up the lives of those around you : D
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: hauw on February 26, 2015, 09:45:39 am
Lol no problem. Immaturity and age are two completely different things apparently.
Well of course it is now that 1.0 is finally released we can have some fun :)
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Lynx on February 28, 2015, 05:51:05 pm
So, has anyone managed to figure out if that item you steal from Xvareon does anything? I clicked it and it gave me the text, but is that really all there is to it?

Also, @Aero, the story ended with so many intentional cliffhangers, SPECIALLY THE SECRET ENDING. The secret ending was amazing!
But, will we get to see the so many questions we were left with answered in the form of a campaign, or do we have to wait for an English translation of the book, if it will ever come?
Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Aeroblyctos on March 03, 2015, 02:02:39 pm
So, has anyone managed to figure out if that item you steal from Xvareon does anything? I clicked it and it gave me the text, but is that really all there is to it?

Also, @Aero, the story ended with so many intentional cliffhangers, SPECIALLY THE SECRET ENDING. The secret ending was amazing!
But, will we get to see the so many questions we were left with answered in the form of a campaign, or do we have to wait for an English translation of the book, if it will ever come?
Spoiler (hover to show)

Gheiz is the main character of the coming book(s). Indeed he's the son of the angel.

And yes, everything now leans on the book(s). Translation will definitely come.

The item from Xvareon is another cliffhanger / spoiler for the book. Actually Stone of Destinies are the backbone for many stories to come. Eventually the stones come together which creates a new era for Oelivert and other three worlds. This will happen somewhere in the future(not in the first three books for now, later...).

The first book tells a lot about the world and Zeemnan which is one of the most important characters of the world. Also Gheiz eventually becomes an important character for Oelivert.
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: Skola on July 23, 2017, 05:42:41 pm
I'm fighting the hardest boss so far
Title: Re: **** End
Post by: angky5p on June 09, 2018, 01:57:11 am
so how about the book? is it out yet?