The Chosen Ones

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Title: Life and Death
Post by: Doomlord on April 16, 2013, 06:51:27 am
What are your viewpoints concerning Life and Death? I will begin as the OP.

For me, Life is a gift, albeit one that we never know what is inside until we open it. Some get a better gift than others, being born to a rich family in a rich country and getting all the luck in their lives and everything they do. On the other hand are people who suffer from disability, hunger, disease, etc. What matters most, however, is not the gift that you are given but how you value that gift.

I embraced that gift and I think happiness is always within my reach.

Death is the End. We never know if we are going to see the sun tomorrow. Death may be closer to us than we think it is. Death sets us free from the burdens of this sinful world but it is not an excuse for one to abuse it as a means to escape his reality, to deny the gift of Life that does not suit his taste somehow.

I myself may greet Death with a warm welcome when my time comes. Or maybe not, for this is but a talk when my subconscious fear of death is absent.
Title: Re: Life and Death
Post by: Blackdoom59 on April 16, 2013, 09:05:15 am
I like to think that the gift of life is the same to everybody , and it falls upon us to use it the way we want.There are people that started poor , sick and hungry and turned out to become men known all around the world due to their perseverence.There are people who are born in rich families , and start out with a world full of temptations.Some seize those temptations and loose all their money and health to alchool , gambling, drugs etc.

We all are and forever will be equal , regardless how people look at us , how much money we have , and how are we feeling.Life is like a rope that you climb all the way to the top.Some ropes are shorter then other , but by this theory the shorter ropes start higher then the longer ones.

Death is also a gift , maybe a greater gift then life , but no one can tell.In death we will not only be equal , but will also feel equal.A rich man who spent his life drinking and gambling his money away , and died under the effects of alchool will feel equal to a man who started in a poor family , in a poor country and yet lived a long , hard -working life near a  loving wife , loving childreen , loving grand-childreen and loving friends.

However , the man who gambled and drank brought hatred upon many others , therefor he wasn't loved , wasn't trust.The man who worked hard , without looking upon his mates to see if they work less hard , brought love upon others , and was loved back back by those who owned him , who looked up to him , who trusted him.Will those two truly be equal in death?
Title: Re: Life and Death
Post by: Shinokyofu on April 16, 2013, 12:56:19 pm
I think life is our reality. We can't deny life, and we can't say that it is some kind of illusion. It's our undeniable reality. Life isn't the same as destiny though and I think that the concept of "destiny" is pretty vague.
For example, a person is born, and along with it, this person's reality. This reality will have within it the future of the person, so yeah, death is also included when you are born.(hence the sentence: "We live to die") The choices that this person can make are also included in this person's reality, but which ones he/she will choose? No one knows until the right moment. We make lots and lots of choices in life, and these choices can lead us to different futures, but all of these futures are also included in your reality.

So, I think you can see life as nothing more than some kind of game. I'm not joking. The essence of life is to make choices, some right ones, some wrongs ones, some that will leads us to nowhere, some that will leads us to some place...
Also notice that I'm talking about only one person, not a group. I'm doing this because I think your life depends of you only. I'm not saying that it's your fault to life with in a violent country, with a poor family that doesn't care for you at all, but it doesn't change the fact that it will be your choices alone that you say if you live or die, that will lead your future(even if the possibilities of getting a good future are limited).

So I think life is a pretty mechanical "thing", but I don't think so about death.

Until the exact moment of death, you can say that both, death and life are your reality. But when you "die", what happens? I mean, the exact moment after your death...could you describe it? Some could say "Nothingness and only that"...okay, then describe "nothingness" to me. Can you? You can't.

That said, I think death is another reality, completly different from the former(life). Death is the end of our reality and the start of another one., and, if you pay attention, life is also like death. Can describe your reality before "life"? Life is something that we can "live", we are concious of it, that's why I described it in such a mechanical way. But you can't do the same with the "before-life" or with the "after-life".

Following some of my beliefs, I say that "death is another life" and vice versa. The reality of death, unknow to us, perphaps are known the people "in death". Life could a mystery for people "in death" too, while we can understand it.

By the way, I think that we fear death, because it's unknow, and not because we "like" life(you can like your life though, I respect you if you do). Perphaps the "me" before the "I" that lived in an alternative reality(perphaps in the reality of death) were also in fear when he was moments before life (hahaha, I couldn't help but laugh at myself for this...).

So The life until death is our reality, but the "after-death" is something that we can only imagine, so you could say that it's some kind of illusion to our reality. But when we "enter" this illusion, perphaps the opposite happens and the reality we were once in, is now nothing but a illusion.

And concluding, no, I'm not contradicting myself. Life is our undeniable reality and we can't say that it's just a illusion. It's the truth, but when someone dies and, perphaps, enters this new reality, the possibility of a something "on the other side of the coin" is something so weird that looks like a lie, a illusion. It's the same for us, as we can't say what's in the other side.
Title: Re: Life and Death
Post by: Blackdoom59 on April 16, 2013, 02:28:03 pm
Life IS a game.However you cannot choose the dificulty.Some start on child's play while some start on ****.

I found this video which explains my statement a little bit:
Why Do We Play Games? (