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hamza_tm

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Re: Be friendly
« on: September 04, 2012, 12:35:32 am »
Lol shin you make me smile!

I agree generally with the stuff you said apart from one important point: A forum is NOT a place where you can log in and do whatever you want just because no one knows who you really are so no one should care. A lot of stuff is OK, but it is not acceptable to insult someone. Aero doesn't want people driven away from this forum because they get insulted or see others get insulted (at least I'm banking everything I say on that fact anyway lol). Who would want to continue spending their time on a forum where they are insulted by the elite members? I know I wouldn't. Stuff like that will stop new people from joining and will cause contributing members to leave permanently. My proof? Merlon told me he has no intention of posting anything here again. We have lost a member that may have developed to be a great benefit to TCO. Should we care? I think anyone who wants the best for this forum and TCO should care.

Commitments start somewhere. People will start with one post, maybe it's even against the rules. But if they meet courteous and helpful and forgiving people they will be encouraged to contribute more, until they develop a bond with other members and that's what will lead to people writing guides and making the forum great. Don't we want that? Not everyone joins a forum with full intention to post every day etc, most of the time someone joins to point out a single thing, then slowly slowly builds up to an active member.

So do what aero says and stop with calling new members fanboys, as well as acting elitist. I'm gonna say it now, it LOOKS like people on this forum use the word for any new member that does anything that irritates them whether good or bad.

Not happy with his post? Huh, he's a typical fanboy...

(Like I get if someone comes up and says something like "YOU ALL SUCK GET LOST, AERO IS A GENIUS MARRY ME PLEEEEEEASE" then you call him a fanboy, but if someone only posts to tell bugs then I really don't understand how that's being a fanboy...)

Anyhow, Doom I'll post up the whole conversation here in just a bit so we can see clearly what happened. I don't want to insult you or anyone else, I just feel that this kind of incident should be learnt from and avoided in the future.

The incident:
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- Can't finish optional quest "Holgro" (only find 1part at shop). Can't finish "Maximilian" (only find damned mask forthe damned set) Maybe i miss something.
Because that's YOUR damn problem. It has nothing to do with bugs.
And can you bother to learn to edit posts?

Because that's YOUR damn problem. It has nothing to do with bugs.
When i read the "Holgro" quest, i undestand i must find the last part of the empty dig spot i have found.
For the damned set, i say i have maybe miss something.
All the boss, all steal and dig done. I just ask for verify the item can be found.
Maybe i am blind and don't see the item. Or maybe is as the medicine quest the item doesn't exist anymore.
But, yes all i have report is not bug and it's my fault. I will stop to report.

And can you bother to learn to edit posts?
Done

But, yes all i have report is not bug and it's my fault. I will stop to report.
Dude no need to flip out like that. Just calm down. You have been doing a great job reporting detailed bugs of each chapter and I myself appreciate that. Yggy is a bit angry because the 'bugs' he quoted aren't bugs. It is just that you didn't check carefully before posting them.

However there is still an advice that I need to give you. If possible, try using better English in your posts. Good English doesn't only make your posts easier to read, it also makes them more appealing and helpful.

But, yes all i have report is not bug and it's my fault. I will stop to report.
Sigh... A stereotypical fanboy... Only knows how to report bugs, and starts to throw tantrums all over the place when being criticised...
You completely misunderstood the post. I only quoted that one 'bug'; which obviously meant that I was only referring to that 'bug', and none of the other ones. Yet, you felt butthurt (since that post was meant to be criticism), and removed all the other bugs that you posted, without realising that they are true bugs.
How dramatic.

Yggdrasill maybe is it time to rethink the way you behave ?!
You are way too agressive when you speak to the community members especially when they are trying to contribute and help the campaign development.

If I were at Merlon's place I also would have felt offended, he just did a great job reporting a great deal of bugs and instead of thanking him, all you do is to bark at him.

How dramatic.

Yggdrasill maybe is it time to rethink the way you behave ?!
You are way too agressive when you speak to the community members especially when they are trying to contribute and help the campaign development.

If I were at Merlon's place I also would have felt offended, he just did a great job reporting a great deal of bugs and instead of thanking him, all you do is to bark at him.

How dramatic.
At first this is just between Merlon and Yggdrasill but after reading this post I have to interfere.

I had dealt with a guy just like you before. One who attempted to interfere and talked like you are the one who was offended/felt butthurt in the first place. I don't know if you have had any clashed with Yggy in the past but it seems like you are trying to exact revenge on him through this for your personal gain. I will analyze the situation here for you because you are completely wrong. At first Yggy quoted some NON-BUGS from Merlon's post then said (rather rudely) that they were his problems and he should learn how to combine all the bug reports into a single post instead of stretching them out. He only talked a bit rude but his post wasn't flaming or insulting yet the guy Merlon threw a tantrum and started sulking like a girl, even going as far as deleting all his bug reports. He did it deliberately and Yggy's post wasn't completely responsible. Then Yggy pointed out how the guy misunderstood him and that deleting the bug reports was actions carried out by his own will.

Now you came here and posted that Yggy is offensive and stuffs. You even said that Yggy 'barked' to Merlon in a post that is (supposed to be) from someone who is trying to show empathy and understanding. This is really a cliche, insulting the 'bad' guy and supporting the 'good' guy. Have you done anything to contribute to the campaign's development yourself except for reporting bugs? The bugs can be reported by anyone who play the campaign and pay a little attention. Unline you and Merlon, Yggy here works hard to help the campaign in multiple ways, exceeding your combined contribution many times. And don't bother flaming/insulting me for this post, since I will be ignoring the posts that are directly aimed at me but I will be more than happy to have a nice and civilized conversation with you instead.

Peace. And yes I don't use 'How dramatic' because borrowing the insulted target's phrase isn't such a glorious thing to do in the first place after all.

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You are way too agressive when you speak to the community members especially when they are trying to contribute and help the campaign development.
Aggressive, eh? I only criticised Merlon of posting not-bugs at the bug thread. And if you ask me, that post was offensive towards ME too; Merlon didn't look at the item list at all, and just assumed that the item is not obtainable. If it was truly unobtainable, he/she/xe/it/they should have at least put more details.
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If I were at Merlon's place I also would have felt offended, he just did a great job reporting a great deal of bugs and instead of thanking him, all you do is to bark at him.
Anyone who is remotely attentive can report these bugs. If Merlon didn't post these bugs, then someone else would eventually do so.

Still...i wonder why people like to make a fuss in forums, chats and stuff, if it's not the funny type then it's no good. I mean, why get offended by something like words from some guy that you' ve never met before? Just give up, shut up and go do something more useful :P.
If only those fanboys can understand such wise words.
Either way, this is a bug masterthread anyway. So why don't we just leave this in the peaceful way and turn the "Bug masterthread" back into its original function.
Simply put, they want war/drama/whatever so we bring it to them. That is all. Why bother denying them such joy?

that they were his problems and he should learn how to combine all the bug reports into a single post instead of stretching them out. He only talked a bit rude but his post wasn't flaming or insulting yet the guy Merlon threw a tantrum and started sulking like a girl, even going as far as deleting all his bug reports.

I put all the thing i have report on 1 post. My first post on the thread.
Or i miss undestand?


I put all the thing i have report on 1 post. My first post on the thread.
Or i miss undestand?
Oops, I didn't see that. Well that is very nice of you to do so.

Anyway about this whole arguement I think we should end it here. Let bygone be bygone okay?
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