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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2014, 04:57:26 am »
Lin, thank you very much, I'll true to beat him again! In current version (as far as I understood you) I can kill hero's illusions without instant death after it??? I mean in previous version when the illusion was killed so the same hero instantly died.
And if I choose @no hp mp regen@ debuff - will I be able to heal and gain mana from items (like giga ring)?

And Shino - maybe you can tell us how not to lose a single life in such a fight on ****? ;D
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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2014, 06:29:29 am »
So Xvareon can push characters to the middle where they are not suppose to go?

Hmm, actually that is nice... Just don't be stupid and fight near the middle!

Was somebody able to kill Yurgimar in version 2.0? I was playing on hard difficulty, got all available items, 80 lifes, and full combat kings. Lost everything. Can somebody tell how to beat him (if it is possible on hard)?
In northeast room his spell pushed Fradz and Galeoth out of the fight area (and they were unable to return). But ok, as far as I understand I have to deciede 3 rooms - one after another. I have to damage him in every room for a fixed amount or just survive for a fixed time (events number)? Damaged him in northwest, northeast, southeast and his HP left was about 125K. But! I think that the cooldown of illusions spells has to be for sure nerfed! Yeah, the fight has to be hard, one of the hardest - but it was just like illusions illusions illusions die die die.
But ok, lost about 40 lifes on 3 rooms - but how to beat him after it? There were 4 Yurgimars and all got 120K mp. When I was fighting with the one that was in my last visited room - they all started to cast a spell - I've lost about 10 lifes before realised that all 4th Yurgi has to be attacked in order to stop the spell! But! I was unable to even run from one to another without atleast 2 of my heroes deaths. Ok. Hard, but I've understood how it works (am I right really?). And again a HUGE "BUT" - while my heroes were moving from one yurgimar to anoter - all 4 regenerated their mp to the full and the fight was like that - 1. If I was trying to focus one of them - other 3 were casting and I got my heroes died in 4 seconds. 2. If I was trying to fight with 3 of them 1 on 1 - it was impossible to counter the remaining one and he was starting to cast that constant damaging spell.

Aero, maybe you can tell how it has to work? It was hard to reaslize how it should be done - just constant fighting with 100000 illusions. Is it even possibly to beat him on hard? I was playing the campaign for about 10 times but it was too hard really, nothing to compare with (I'm not a crier, but in my opinion it was some kind of imba fight :o).

And btw Phodoms Phoenix Combo dissappered in Ch.8, while in Ch.9 it was possible to cast it again but you have to upgrade it from the 1st level (while in ch.7 I got the phoenix combo lvl 5).

Illusions are good now? Good. Now the heroes won't die if illusions die.

Health regen is health regen. Mana regen is mana regen. Of course potions, items and abilities are a different thing.

Just lock the things you want; check buffs. Last phase: I beat it by defeating one quickly and then send my characters to all Yurgimars at the same time. I used same tactic as Lin. Just watch out for those stars spells. Just like Lin, we both played with Easy/Normal difficulty. Also Espers are very nice as I made them a lot stronger than ever before. This suppose to be probably the second hardest of all. I believe in the future some might even say this is the hardest boss of the campaign.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2014, 06:34:23 am by Aeroblyctos »

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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2014, 07:43:56 am »
So you can defeat it without losing lives :D?
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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2014, 08:32:02 am »
So you can defeat it without losing lives :D?
Never said that. O-ou. I must be quiet about this.

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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2014, 01:34:54 pm »
So Xvareon can push characters to the middle where they are not suppose to go?

Hmm, actually that is nice... Just don't be stupid and fight near the middle!

Illusions are good now? Good. Now the heroes won't die if illusions die.

Health regen is health regen. Mana regen is mana regen. Of course potions, items and abilities are a different thing.

Just lock the things you want; check buffs. Last phase: I beat it by defeating one quickly and then send my characters to all Yurgimars at the same time. I used same tactic as Lin. Just watch out for those stars spells. Just like Lin, we both played with Easy/Normal difficulty. Also Espers are very nice as I made them a lot stronger than ever before. This suppose to be probably the second hardest of all. I believe in the future some might even say this is the hardest boss of the campaign.

About pushing - I mean the northeast Yurgimar pushes characters out of him - so after some casts of such spell he casted it naer to the force wall - and I got two of my heroes out of the fighting area without the ability to return - suppose that it was not planned to be like that [-)

Ok, I've understood the tactics - but what about the spell that they are casting together (all 4 Yurgimars)? The one that deals dps (the animation of Yurgimar - he stands on the ground, doing something with his hands with violet animation ;D ;D ;D) to the heroes until every Yurgi is attacked (and the damage is soo huge that it was even impossible to live for more than 4-5 seconds) - am I right that such a spell can be stopped by attacking every Yurgimar?
And I've lost all Espers in the fight in top left corner - that crazy beast killed my Espers with 5-6 hits or spells or what was it - I'dont remember.

But for sure I'm more than motivated now - I supposed to think that know the campaign and with the max items collected and about 100 hours played (sad that game points were set to zero after some save-load in version 2.0 but nvm :-X) - and that bone beast costed me 80 lives - anyway I'm going to kick his ass!
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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2014, 06:25:44 am »
Finally killed the Yurgimar on Hard - epic fight, costed 30-35 lifes.
But again the Ogozoma was not actually upgraded  :o
The message appeared that I got the Super Ogozoma (but still in the inventory boxes there was just an Ogozoma, not upgraded).

Ch.10 - bug occured with that Bug boss fight - if he casts his "green screen" spell and will be killed during the casting time - the "green screen" won't be finished - I've been waiting for about a 5-7 minutes - nothing changed. Have to reload the game.
Can you please tell me how the decision with the Angel affects on the game?
Epic fight with the Angel gave one of the greatest item in the campaign in my opinion (the one that gives +6K hp, +50 stats etc).
Got some questions - how to enter to the Mother's lair? I was able only with the blink orb obtained from the library - but only one hero can do it. I've tried every cave, but can't find how to solve it :o
Also the quest with popag - after killing the bug boss I have to be "sure that popag will return to the base" - I've found him near the cave on the north west and he teleported away - I was neither able to find him on the map nor on the base. Where was he and how many times I have to find him?

Xvareon fight - during the first stage if I kill the shadow egg too fast - fatal error occured. But tried it only once.

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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2014, 08:49:47 am »
Can you please tell me how the decision with the Angel affects on the game?

Different reward + morale. Nothing more.

Got some questions - how to enter to the Mother's lair? I was able only with the blink orb obtained from the library - but only one hero can do it. I've tried every cave, but can't find how to solve it

Next time there will be a hint: "Either right or left. Find out the right order to go further."

Also the quest with popag - after killing the bug boss I have to be "sure that popag will return to the base" - I've found him near the cave on the north west and he teleported away - I was neither able to find him on the map nor on the base. Where was he and how many times I have to find him?

5! Or something.

Xvareon fight - during the first stage if I kill the shadow egg too fast - fatal error occured. But tried it only once.

Yes Lin reported about this too... Hmm I wonder why.

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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2014, 06:29:48 pm »
Oh god. I was totally happy to see 2.0 released, but when I came to Zylcious fight....The biggest disappointment ever. No, do you SERIOUSLY think that spamming 99999999+ illusions that only swarm and shoot at you is a very interesting, creative idea? Couldn't that be a bit different?..
Well, I somehow defeated his 1 phase, but then he summoned DK's, I beat 3 of them, one spawned a rotating untargetable blade that cuts characters. And that's all! Two more stand at the hill with Zyl and do nothing. Is it a known bug or I just don't guess something?
Anyway, level is impassable for now...
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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2014, 12:15:16 am »
Oh god. I was totally happy to see 2.0 released, but when I came to Zylcious fight....The biggest disappointment ever. No, do you SERIOUSLY think that spamming 99999999+ illusions that only swarm and shoot at you is a very interesting, creative idea? Couldn't that be a bit different?..
Well, I somehow defeated his 1 phase, but then he summoned DK's, I beat 3 of them, one spawned a rotating untargetable blade that cuts characters. And that's all! Two more stand at the hill with Zyl and do nothing. Is it a known bug or I just don't guess something?
Anyway, level is impassable for now...

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- Chapter 10 is now available to play, but it doesn't have Epic Boss yet

SUDDENLY THAT WAS FIRST THING WRITTEN IN THIS TOPIC!!!1

Aero, whai u don't blocked the way to zyl? :(

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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2014, 02:18:00 am »
Oh god. I was totally happy to see 2.0 released, but when I came to Zylcious fight....The biggest disappointment ever. No, do you SERIOUSLY think that spamming 99999999+ illusions that only swarm and shoot at you is a very interesting, creative idea? Couldn't that be a bit different?..
Well, I somehow defeated his 1 phase, but then he summoned DK's, I beat 3 of them, one spawned a rotating untargetable blade that cuts characters. And that's all! Two more stand at the hill with Zyl and do nothing. Is it a known bug or I just don't guess something?
Anyway, level is impassable for now...

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- Chapter 10 is now available to play, but it doesn't have Epic Boss yet

SUDDENLY THAT WAS FIRST THING WRITTEN IN THIS TOPIC!!!1

Aero, whai u don't blocked the way to zyl? :(
Actually the boss is present but the battle stops. And it seemingly closes the way we need to move to get to the bos and progress on the story. (And Aero, please(!) make something to that illusion spamming, its awful, no offends, everything else is great, but this particuar thing is clearly not).

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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2014, 03:19:09 am »
Oh god. I was totally happy to see 2.0 released, but when I came to Zylcious fight....The biggest disappointment ever. No, do you SERIOUSLY think that spamming 99999999+ illusions that only swarm and shoot at you is a very interesting, creative idea? Couldn't that be a bit different?..
Well, I somehow defeated his 1 phase, but then he summoned DK's, I beat 3 of them, one spawned a rotating untargetable blade that cuts characters. And that's all! Two more stand at the hill with Zyl and do nothing. Is it a known bug or I just don't guess something?
Anyway, level is impassable for now...
There was a text the boss is not done and those were just the first and second phases.

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Aero, whai u don't blocked the way to zyl? :(

I don't know. Perhaps it was stupid that there's middle but you can't access it.

Actually the boss is present but the battle stops. And it seemingly closes the way we need to move to get to the bos and progress on the story. (And Aero, please(!) make something to that illusion spamming, its awful, no offends, everything else is great, but this particuar thing is clearly not).

He should create 1 illusion of himself every now and then. Also he has that one event he creates 12 of himself which will disappear after a while.

Now you guys can see that I have to test dozens of times just one boss fight before it works smoothly and finely. I've been now testing it couple of weeks and even at this moment it still doesn't work properly. A lot of work, and every single time I underestimate how much I need to polish things. That is the reason why it takes years alone to create a project at this scale.

The next minor version which I will release today evening will still not have fully created and polished Epic Boss.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2014, 03:25:25 am by Aeroblyctos »

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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2014, 12:49:56 pm »
I don't know. Perhaps it was stupid that there's middle but you can't access it.

So.. The boss, that you can't kill or escape started fight with him... Is not... Ah, holy ****, yes, this is good idea :D


Also, 1st Zyl's phase can be easily killed, if one of your characters will run his attacks (they're avoidable and have "minimal range"), others just killing true Zyl
« Last Edit: December 23, 2014, 12:52:49 pm by Lin »

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Re: Version 2.0
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2014, 01:14:57 pm »
Okay I disabled Epic Boss until it's done.