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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2013, 12:36:48 am »
There maybe a guy, a hero, who will make such a donation. Then I will clear some of my time for the campaign and create the thing(s) he wanted. I don't expect donations to come so quickly - most likely after half a year. We'll see. we'll see. But about that time I've already finished the book and if it succeed I will have zero time for the campaign most likely and I will to a promote campaign promoting the book. Second book I will start after the first immediately, I've already been planning for it too.

As you guys have seen, yesterday I created two minor version. I will keep on working on the campaign nevertheless until it is finished. Little by little we go closer and closer to the end.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 12:39:11 am by Aeroblyctos »

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2013, 02:51:19 am »
"Hum...if I wait a little, perhaps someone will donate and I'll can play the game with the new things! Besides, I won't need to pay anything at all! I'm such a genius."

:P?

If you quote someone's post and don't type anything there by yourself, that means you either were about to say the same thing/would say the same thing.

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2013, 06:02:32 am »
Hello Aero,

I think your quality of work deserves some recognition.
If you finish chapter 10 content (Boss fights, items) and do it flawlessly I am willing to pay for that - but of course we have to agree about the price.
I think it would be better if we take this discussion to the PM - reply if you are interrested.

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2013, 11:38:29 am »
the main problem with this campaign is a general problem with our society. money. if everyone who loves this campaign would pay only 5 or 10 bucks, aero would allready have WAAAAAAY enough to continue this campaign for half a year. donate 20 bucks a year and he will easily be able to make it perfect and finish his books and we buy them too. you "dont have money" ? you get your money from your parents? dude im **** poor. i have a job where i earn **** (im a translator by the way, i translate english science fiction novels into german, so if you need a translation for your book aero, come at me, lol) and i still donated 10 euro. even if you get like 50 bucks poketmoney monthly from your parents, you can still easily give away 10% which would be 5 bucks per month.

"why would i do that?"
why wouldnt you? is it such a big deal for you? i mean ofcourse nobody can expect from you to give away your money, but think about it: aero spent thousands of hours of time to bring us fun. how many hours did you play TCO? i played it probably about... alot. 50++ hours i guess.

now imagine aero would be your neighbour or live in your town and he'd ask you: "Hey, i need to move house, can you help me? it'll only take one hour", would you do it? would you do something for one hour to help him? ofcourse you would. now that you dont live in his town and he doesnt need to move house, you cant help him like that, but he needs a small portion of your time for another favor. money.

if you get a job, depending on where you live, you can earn about 7-20 US dollars an hour even if you are a student. why dont you get a small weekend job for only one weekend, everyone can do that, and donate the money you earn there to aero? isnt his work worth at least a few hours of your time? a  week has 168 hours, if everyone donates 2 of them only once, aero is paid in full.
you dont want to work because you are a kid? or lazy? donate your poketmoney instead of buying sweets or some new ****-game on steam this month. how **** hard is it.

i dont write this for aero, i write this for myself because i hate this stupid attitude of people clinging so much to their money. i know its not your individual fault but a serious issue of our society and when i see some hobo beggar in the streets i rarely give them money because i know they will probably just spend it on drugs and i dont give a **** about them, shame on me. but with aero, i know hes a good man and hes doing good not only for himself and not only for me but for all of us.

i myself wouldnt have donated anything, i guess, if aero hadnt asked for it because, like most people, also shame on me here, if somethings free, i take it for free. also some things are not free and i still take them for free like movies and music and many games from online streaming services because i feel right doing it and also because i simply can.

on the other hand, i spend alot of money for **** **** nobody ever needs, for example this piece of **** movie "total recall". anyone saw that in 3D? man i spent like 13 bucks for this trash and it only got me 2 hours of mediocre semi-joy. **** this ****, i need to man up and so do all of you.

let me lead with a good example: starting next month (july), i will spend my money on one less useless thing i surely dont need and instead give it to you. 10 bucks every month until you earn something yourself. as long as it takes.
THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2013, 02:48:49 pm »
^ Aha, someone here DOES know Steam, too! :D When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in lines before me...

So... Aero is a charity now? In my opinion, people should be donating not because they want Aero to have an easier time, but because they really think the campaign is worth a bit of money like some purchased game. At the end of the day, it's up to the people where they want their money to be spent on, though.

It just tends to be that custom Warcraft 3 maps/campaigns haven't really became businesses or projects that pay even. Why? Well... DLCs are often much, much smaller than the original game itself.

I agree however, that we're spending more and more of our money to some useless stuff like going to the movies (nowadays I rarely, if ever, go there anymore though). But what needs to be noted as of right now, is the current status of economy; if I'm not mistaken, we've just been VERY SLOWLY started to recover from an economic depression (and who knows, it might crash hard very soon again). So if anything, people want concrete products/services for their money more than simply giving it away without receiving anything extra in return.

And then of course, yeah, you might have a job now that leaves you with decent amount of extra money to spend after taxes, living costs etc, but what if you suddenly got fired because your company wants to save money? 10 bucks a month doesn't sound a lot, but it all adds up over time.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2013, 02:53:33 pm by Flecky »

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2013, 05:01:35 pm »
Yeah, people should give the money they think the campaign value...oh well...

even if you get like 50 bucks poketmoney monthly from your parents, you can still easily give away 10% which would be 5 bucks per month.

50 bucks? Ha!

Well, my main problem isn't little money. The fact is: My money isn't mine. I'm not talking about the fact that it was my parents that gave me, but that my father can still control the money, even if it's mine. Things like shopping, going to the movies or even videogames are allowed (IF i don't spend a lot), but, to donate to "some random guy that is making a game with another game. Btw, he lives in a foreigner country.". Tried something similar before, the difference would it be it was a guy here in Brazil....and he almost destroyed my ears with lectures.

"So Shino, what is your father's point of view?" Don't ask me, perhaps "Start valluing money" or something.

Start getting my own money: That would be a different thing. I can't start making money until college.
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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2013, 01:09:36 am »
Something is not right Aero... Somehow I feel your decision this time is... not right...

From my point of view.. if you do something because you love it then the result will be much different than do something to survive. This decision, even if it's success, it will affects you in one or another way, more or less. See? Some guys lose their faith and respect to you, some start arguing with each other...

There're thousands of reasons for people to donate and millions of reasons to not donate, and since they all are just points of view, no one can tell if they're right or wrong, they're not statements. However, since you made people think and couldn't agree with them on some problems, sure there will be cracks in your relationships... Can you put all your mind and heart to this like before, after all these things?

If you're overflowed with yourself.. you can choose what's more important to do... Don't force yourself to do all... in this way.
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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2013, 04:49:16 am »
I just need enough money to continue my dream to finish this the campaign and continue the story in the coming books. What I wish is to put all my efforts to this thing. I've still so much to give and there's no really an end. The story goes forward and there are yet so many things to come out. So many powerful characters, so many powerful dragons and yet so many thrilling twists.

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2013, 04:59:51 am »
So many powerful characters, so many powerful dragons ...

And still TCO doesn't sell... HMM!

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2013, 05:06:00 am »
What do you mean sell?

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2013, 06:31:28 am »
Not enough donates to even break even.

Maybe you should enable microtransactions.

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2013, 10:59:53 am »
Aero has no moar moneeh
So TCO has no moar moneeh...

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2013, 11:20:58 am »
Just wait, Aero. I promise you that in 5 years I'll donate something :D.

Not enough donates to even break even.

Maybe you should enable microtransactions.

Care to explain, please :)?

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2013, 02:33:30 am »
Just wait, Aero. I promise you that in 5 years I'll donate something :D.

A long-term investment. :p

Not enough donates to even break even.

Maybe you should enable microtransactions.

Care to explain, please :)?

Aero selling booster packs or the like to allow paying players gain advantages.

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Re: The future of Oelivert
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2013, 08:08:22 am »
I've been just writing the book last one month fast as I can. I will finish the main quest line for TCO after the first book is done. My aim is to finish the book within 2 months. I may create a few minor version for the campaign to fix bugs.