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What's the best item so far?
« on: August 28, 2014, 12:31:44 pm »
What's the best item so far?

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 01:32:55 pm »
1. Gilmax
2. Big stacks of Greater Magic Balls
3. Character Sets
4. +% magic damage (because of Gilmax/Magic Balls)

Unfortunately nothing else really compares. Even though Azureus Set for instance takes quite a bit of effort to assemble, it just doesn't hold a candle.

Fradz starting items Blade of Speed and Regeneration Book are pretty amazing and quite useable late in the game. Galeoth's Ice Crystal is all right until Gilmax/Greater Balls show up.

Aero/Holgro are ok. Stuff like Excalibur/Sargatanas are just lol or in general things that do X effect every 10 attacks.

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 05:22:20 am »
Suppose that Upgraded Ogozoma is great and the deadly axe that is given by Yurgimar - but it was no possibility to test such items.
But anyway, still magic damage bonus is too imba, it has to be nerfed in some way, but not the system at all (because it may cause new bugs) - just bonus magic damage from Greater Orbs can be multiplied on 0,5 (or maybe even 0,3) from current bonus. Also Gilmax - reduce the maximum limit (suppose that currently it is 500) to something like 300 or 200.  I've suggested the easiest ways in order to avoid possible bugs that could occur after some significant changes.
Really, unique sets that requires items from elite or epic boss fights and other complicated quests (in 4-5 chapters to be finally finished) are actually less effective than magic bonus items (not even sets).
For instance Aero Set itself is not as effective in battles as abuse of magic damage bonus.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 05:23:52 am by TrueZozi »
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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2014, 04:40:48 pm »
Suppose that Upgraded Ogozoma is great and the deadly axe that is given by Yurgimar - but it was no possibility to test such items.
But anyway, still magic damage bonus is too imba, it has to be nerfed in some way, but not the system at all (because it may cause new bugs) - just bonus magic damage from Greater Orbs can be multiplied on 0,5 (or maybe even 0,3) from current bonus. Also Gilmax - reduce the maximum limit (suppose that currently it is 500) to something like 300 or 200.  I've suggested the easiest ways in order to avoid possible bugs that could occur after some significant changes.
Really, unique sets that requires items from elite or epic boss fights and other complicated quests (in 4-5 chapters to be finally finished) are actually less effective than magic bonus items (not even sets).
For instance Aero Set itself is not as effective in battles as abuse of magic damage bonus.

I agree, it feels like there's a lot of complicated sets to assemble (Azureus, Eternal Set, Sargatanas, Jade for small example) and once you finish them it's like....eh. A little bit of physical damage with a little bit of attack speed, some stats like +250 hp/mp and some diddly effect every 10 attacks just doesn't compare to magic damage or the massive stat gains from Life Stone or Character Set.

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2014, 03:54:04 am »
I see. In that case magic damage will be lowered.

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2014, 05:55:38 am »
I think that there are too many of "a bit of everything" kind of items. I don't want to spend gold on bonuses I don't need.
My favourite item is Francisca though.

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2014, 02:43:57 pm »
Noooooo don't lower it! If you are, just not too much :P! The problem is that sets that are so tedious to assemble is not strong enough compared to other item/sets so it felt like after completing it, it wasn't even worth it! So those set needs buff.

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2014, 01:53:33 am »
It's easier for me to simply to balance just two items instead of dozens of items. That's why Gilmax and Magic Balls will be a bit weaker in the next version. However, Greatest Magic Ball is added to the campaign. It requires 8x Greater Magic Ball.

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2015, 01:42:21 am »
In all honesty magic damage is fine as it is right now.

Sure by stacking magic damage and Gilmax you'll get massive magic damage which results in massive burst DPS. However items with the most magic damage item rarely offers anything besides magic damage and you're stuck with 4 slots after Greater Magic Balls and Gilmax. If you're using 1 slot for Super Holgro or utility you ended with 3.
Fradz IMHO are the worst option to be a caster between the trio because mostly you will utilize 1-2 slots for steal chance : Shadow Set, 3 Paths, Zyl Orb and that leaves you will very little options for tankiness.

Whereas by stacking attack damage you often got small nice tradeoffs such as attack speed, leech life, stats, HP/MP, etc. Your spell might be weaker but life leeching makes life easier.

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2015, 04:08:49 pm »
Good, good, good. My plan is finally working and basic attack is strong too...

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2015, 06:27:43 pm »
Teleport stone... 100% magic dmg? sure!

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2015, 08:02:41 pm »
If you get it the Greatest Magic Ball is very strong! I really love Aero too very nice well rounded item with an amazing active!

I don't think Gilmax or Greater Magic Ball need to be nerfed at all. But I do think the Ultimate Orb is a little underwhelming in comparison to most of the big magic items out there, it's a super cool concept though :)

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2015, 12:10:31 pm »
Sargatanas is too weak IMO
I agree that some set are too weak for the long time for collect and finished it

ex : azureus (7 chapter and a lot of gold), orichalcon>sargatanas(maybe you should make it more often like 5th attack or so or increase the magic damage bonus), aero(so expensive, nice stats but not enough) super holgro(decent items that need a lot of gold)

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Re: What's the best item so far?
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2015, 02:14:07 am »
I think Inner Stone deserves a honorable mention.
That 60% magic resist made Yurgimar's Pentagram spell a joke.