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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2011, 02:53:44 pm »
Hello,

Well, old friends; I'm not able to tell if it was mutual then or if it is now, Kitabatake, for one, at least got lots of his attention back then. :)

I think Aero only trusted Skasian in this matter; Every fight needs participiants, audience and the 3rd persons. Participiants are / were, for sure, me, Black and Skasian. "Audience" was pretty much the rest of TCO, except Chimto, who was willing to hop in because he had the guts, making him a 3rd person.

Now, Skasian has two helpful & user-friendly guides, which are nice, there's no question about it. The only issue was moderatorism. He couldn't move our posts, we couldn't control ourselves. Done. But wait, there's more.

Weekends are pretty double-edged; On one side, you would think that because people get out-of-work, they'd come here (same on other forums), but that's not the case always. It's up to folks' interest that can vary quite much in a certain timeline. So, to make the reason for the "dead site" is our fight, we'd to wait and look at it from a longer timeline.

Aero isn't greedy, right, but if I'm any correct, he used to be more harsh when it came to judging stuff, especially in competitions; Now I feel like it's "please everybody", which in the long run can cause a disastrous disarray.

I don't know about closing the thread - Rather send it to Hell.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2011, 05:35:55 pm »
As I mentioned personally to you, I agree I should have moved your posts instead of deleting them. I was unaware at the time that there is a method of moving INDIVIDUAL posts.

The only gripe I have with doing that is, I shouldn't have to constantly do that everytime something pops up. It's really not up to me to move your off-topicness as you should have posted in off-topic yourself. Otherwise there would be a lot of unnecessary work. That said the course of action I should have taken would be to 'Warn' and not 'Delete' so you guys had the chance to move stuff yourself. Unfortunately there is no way for me to recover your posts :(

Peace is good, just want to play the game. Forum fights are pointless, just generate more rage. The internet is full of rage (if years of gaming has taught me anything, it's to learn to ignore all the rage on the internet or you will just **** yourself off).

As for the forums seemily dying you have to understand the major events that have taken place this November.

1. Release of Modern Warfare 3 (which has outsold any single digital entertainment item this year).
2. Release of Battlefield 3 (again another huge title, selling slightly under MW3 but immensely popular across platforms).
3. Release of Skyrim (which Aero has admitted falling victim to and I'm sure anyone who loves warcraft-RPG's would love to play)

There 3 games would easily distract attention from the forums so it can be understandable why it is quiet. All 3 of those games are amazing as well I might add. So give it a bit, when the games' WOW factor dies down we may see more attention again.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 02:17:42 am »
i might not know much happen this few days in the forums (except the argument)

But, couldnt we just take a step back just for the sake of peace ?
come on. we are a community
we should help each other
think positive guys. ;D

hope that helps

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 02:26:04 am »
DD , I'm not sure , but I guess you are an old friend of Aero.And , ofc , you feel somehow insulted that he didn't trust us , but he trusted the mr.Chim(p) and Skasy  , who posted "great" stuff at our site.But , if Aero wants to promote such giving up methodes , then let us follow his will , and give up.


I'm not sure you noticed , but since we had our conflict , the whole site "died".For realy , after we had our conflict , you see only me, you, Skasian , mr.Chim(p), Aero and sometimes doomlord.There are lots of guys that could say something (AdmOrian ,AriLaro,EndlessPain,Hellheaven,WsawW and so on..) but they didn't.

I'm preety sure I know why.It's because Skasian's action , they saw what he did and they were like:
"Sh*t , I'm goana get banned if I post off-topic , better shut up now".So our little conflict may have already turned 5%+ of TCO to a fear state , fear to the highter powers.

About that PR stuff , Aero got it all wrong , he is not that "greedy" kind of guy.He thinks for all @ TCO , the same problem is he got it all wrong.


That beeing said , i strongly sugest this thread be closed.And all the people that saw our fight , forget it , go on without it.Skasian feels sorry , Aero is not that mad , I for one , have no problem with this , and mr.Chim(p) has a proud mouth that will surely shut up soon.

Why do I suggest that this thread has to be closed?Well , ppl that have already seen our conflict , are eighter with us , or without us.And ofc , they're always with the highter powers  , so they are without us.And they may think we are some kind of freaks who did something barely legal.I do NOT want to be seen with such eyes , and if I will , I will soon retire from TCO , deleating all my posts and threads(with the modify , I type - instead of the first text , that is posible).

erm, for me
im not afraid of getting banned
and i will fight or argue for my rights (if stolen,look down,or disagreed)
but i tell.. one thing i learn in life .. that is peace.
i dont like to argue for a small reason or problems
if skasian and chimto said that you both are spamming
why not you and DD just make a tread in the non topic section (or whatever it is called)
im not afraid of them. thats for sure and i dont care if Aero side who
but i can tell you.. i believe Aero is siding with peace and that is the correct thing to do as his the leader and the creator of this campaign.
PS im not siding with both of you all either .i just dont want to watch my fellow community members arguing.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 02:33:03 am »
Hello,

It's hard to think positively when the fight is still on - Had Chimto not come along, it'd have been over a couple of days ago.

As weird as it sounds, though, I've been thinking of inventing titles for all of the participiants, perhaps to lessen the degree of seriousness.

ADD: WsawW, even if you weren't siding with either group, creating a new one, "peacemakers", is just causing things to get worse: Chimto & Skasian are probably neutral with you (or friendly), but at least I, if not Black too, am going to fight against you as well, because your solution would be to give up hope on the Staff (Aero + other moderators).

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 03:05:17 am »
than answer me..
the arguments you guys are having
is it nice for other new members to watch and laugh ?
is it nice for the members like arilaroo,doomlord etc to feel proud of ?
im not calling you to give up hope
im calling to back away.
arguments like this can never end if one side never tries to back away and accept it..
continue this fight is like a never ending war.
their the elders in this community and skasian did apologise. case closed
is done already
chimto hops in.So what ?
does it even matter ?. he is just telling you his side of opinions and disagreements. Just like you said. let him be.
But one thing i can tell you.. i do admire you and black to stand up for yourself. i really do. and i believe others too.. but i wont feel proud of if my own fellow community members starts to argue

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2011, 03:36:21 am »
Hello,

No, it's not nice that others are able to see our fighting, but unevitable as it was, Aero brought it more into public, supported by Chimto. It was meant to be a "as private as possible" fight, but of course it couldn't be kept as one.

And now, it can't be even sent to the Hell section, for unknown reasons.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2011, 03:43:55 am »
that i agree with you
well.. is good though.
this will remind us all the first TCO argument
hope it wont be repeated again right ?
think positive..
i remember the day when i posted my opinion
you said it was a piece of crap
i felt hurt and yet i don't want to argue with you or call you to show some respect
i think positively cause you are better then me so i take as a disagreement not an insult
so the fact im trying to say is
let Chimto be.. we all have a our own suggestions,agreements,right and etc
so i hope this argument does not continue
ok ?

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2011, 05:45:46 am »
Hello,

It's the honesty that matters - If you'd have something very negative to say, say it; Thinking positively in that case is denying the reality.

Mm... And what was the opinion I "crappified"? I'm curios to recall.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2011, 07:25:59 am »
so tell me..
after you and black tell out
do you feel better ?

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2011, 07:45:55 am »
Hello,

Come again; "tell out"? What do you mean?

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2011, 10:41:04 am »
Guys I'm sorry we caused so much problems:|.WsawW , I could be wrong aboud the dead site , but I don't think I am.Now you entered the site for in order to bring "peace".That is what we fight for buddy , we want to restore the  peacefull atmosphree of our site.

In fact I must say this:Our "war" kinda was ended until mr.Chim(p) replied at DD's answers.So let it be , and please , please please , deleate this post.If you move it to hell you'l only make things worst , because it will belong to divine judgement and ppl always see stuff inside divine judgement.


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is it nice for other new members to watch and laugh ?
No , that's what I am afraid the most.When ppl laught at my stuff.

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is it nice for the members like arilaroo,doomlord etc to feel proud of ?
Proud of what?That they are not "veterans" but they didn't entered in truble?If so , it's not nice eighter , making ppl be proud of such a random thing would soon turn that ppl into lower persons

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so i hope this argument does not continue
ok ?

They will stop soon.


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after you and black tell out
do you feel better ?


I think he means"After we told Aero about our problem with Skasian".
And yes, we felt better for a moment.I can remember my private discussion with DD when we both wanted Skasian to be demoted(yeah we were angry as hell).I can also remember while Skasian felt sorry , and told me the way he wached the situtation.Now I just want this conflict to stop.


It was the first "serious"problem on TCO , let's hope we would not hav another one soon.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2011, 11:51:00 am »
well i hope this is the end of the argument..  ;D

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2011, 03:17:55 pm »
oh, cmon people. it's just a game. and you quarrel because of it. take it easier. never understood these showdowns on the forums. you never even seen each other, but already polemic, and polemic about the little things. like a little childs.
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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2011, 09:28:15 pm »
oh, cmon people. it's just a game. and you quarrel because of it. take it easier. never understood these showdowns on the forums. you never even seen each other, but already polemic, and polemic about the little things. like a little childs.

ok..... that was harsh.. but at least you got the point.. BUT (haha i said but twice) is not because of game.. is because of ranks,right and standard  ;D.. anyway arilaroo meant was don't quarrel because of a small matter.. don't be childish.. so that was a good point in it  [-)