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Let's make some things clear
« on: November 20, 2011, 03:19:57 am »
Hello members of this community!

Lately we have had a little fight in the forums and I would like to tell you few things. I remind that we're a small community and that's why especially every member is important part of this community. We should respect each other.

Even if we're here to have fun that doesn't mean we can spam everywhere in the forums random things. I'm easy-going guy but I have my own limits too. I think important topics like bug masterthread is a place only for bugs. However of course you can go there and help people if they're asking for help.

Use the off-topic section for random talk but elsewhere relate your discussion at least somehow about the campaign.

Now about myself I'm sorry that I didn't see a little fight here last few days. I've been busy with school and Skyrim. I haven't paid much attention to the forums and I haven't been doing the campaign much. However that doesn't mean the end has come. After I have finished Skyrim I go back to the daily rutines doing the campaign and checking the forums few times per day. The campaign will be finished, no matter what.

Now that I've said what I had in my mind listen some good music and let the tranquility enter your heart.


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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 03:44:52 am »
Hello,

The first three chapters are completely filled of PR (Public Relations).

Is it that there's only half the truth to keep this fight confidental, or are you just trying to be way too friendly? :p

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 04:57:04 am »
So Aero's solution to our fight is the easy "stfu".Man I'm dissapointed.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 05:37:08 am »
Hello,

So Aero's solution to our fight is the easy "stfu".Man I'm dissapointed.

It's exactly PR's purpose - Convince the clients that it's not the company's fault, to maintain the reputation.
Of course, the clients know the truth, but the company doesn't give up trying - Honesty is a dying attribute these days.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 07:17:32 am »
Eh, let's see what you have done, Blackdoom and DD Canada...
1. Derail the topic from being a source of information for the questionnaires to a personal discussion without any relevance to the topic itself.
2. When Skasian deleted these posts, you felt butthurt, 'cause you spent some 'precious' minutes of your life to write them. Lemme analyse DD Canada's posts...
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He's been deleting both (Black's and mine) of our posts, telling us that it's off-topic and that we should take it to the off-topic section.
A little off-topic is fine, but derailing like that is just ridiculous.
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I know, that this would be replied "just start the discussion over in there, or copy-paste your posts". Pardon me, but that's not gonna happen. Should we do that, it would just support current and future moderators to such giving up -methods.
^Stubbornly refusing to take their off-topic discussion to somewhere else, for the Greater Good.
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Seriously, we spent some important minutes of our lives to write those replies, just to get them deleted due to rejection of a moderator. Why couldn't they be just edited to remove wrong content? Why couldn't they've been moved by those who have the control?
^Insisting that their spam posts don't deserve deletion, since they spent some 'precious' minutes of their lives to write them. Such an original complaint - I've never seen someone on any other forum did this.
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Wether or not we went off-topic, you could've moved our posts, but you didn't. Like come on, we didn't spam, we didn't necro, cross-post or anything like that - Off-topic is by far one of the least mistakes one is able to do.
But it is not off-topic anymore. It's become SPAM.
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And what's with Chimto to bring him to this? Moderators are generally opinionless, aka if there's an argue, they shouldn't side with either person / group. So if Chimto was the only person you saw to get annoyed of our chat, doesn't that make it 2v1? This is outstanding, soon there'll probably be more public votes that are ignored completely.
No. Skasian is not simply 'siding' with me. He's doing his housekeeping job.
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the easy way, giving up: Deletion.
*standard
I hope that explained enough.
Along the shore the cloud waves break,
The twin suns sink behind the lake,
The shadows lengthen
In Carcosa.

Strange is the night where black stars rise,
And strange moons circle through the skies,
But stranger still is
Lost Carcosa.

Songs that the Hyades shall sing,
Where flap the tatters of the King,
Must die unheard in
Dim Carcosa.

Song of my soul, my voice is dead,
Die thou, unsung, as tears unshed
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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 07:37:39 am »
Hello,

1) -
2) Replace 'butthurt' with 'disappointed' and we're good to go.

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A little off-topic is fine, but derailing like that is just ridiculous.

True, we can't control ourselves when the other person provokes to post off-topic, but why couldn't those posts be moved? Just why, why?

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^Stubbornly refusing to take their off-topic discussion to somewhere else, for the Greater Good.

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^Insisting that their spam posts don't deserve deletion, since they spent some 'precious' minutes of their lives to write them. Such an original complaint - I've never seen someone on any other forum did this.

Many people don't have the guts to tell their honest opinions, so that might be the reason for why you'vent seen this kind of protest before.

How were our posts spam? Off-topic for sure, but we didn't spam in our posts (for example smileys) neither did we doublepost / triplepost or so forth. Explain me.

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But it is not off-topic anymore. It's become SPAM.

^One quote above.

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No. Skasian is not simply 'siding' with me. He's doing his housekeeping job.

I wish you a merry PR Christmas.

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*standard

Right, standard deletion - Why couldn't he move those posts?

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I hope that explained enough.

No - I would have to get the rights to delete all of your 150 off-topic posts so that you would understand why, if you value those couple of hours of your life.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2011, 07:55:12 am »
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True, we can't control ourselves when the other person provokes to post off-topic, but why couldn't those posts be moved? Just why, why?
How do you propose moving these posts to the PMs? I can't see any other place for them besides PMs.
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I wish you a merry PR Christmas.
Explained above.
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How were our posts spam? Off-topic for sure, but we didn't spam in our posts (for example smileys) neither did we doublepost / triplepost or so forth. Explain me.
Spam can mean all sorts of things. Which does include large chunks of irrelevant texts.
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Right, standard deletion - Why couldn't he move those posts?
Said above.
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No - I would have to get the rights to delete all of your 150 off-topic posts so that you would understand why, if you value those couple of hours of your life.
what is this i dont even
Along the shore the cloud waves break,
The twin suns sink behind the lake,
The shadows lengthen
In Carcosa.

Strange is the night where black stars rise,
And strange moons circle through the skies,
But stranger still is
Lost Carcosa.

Songs that the Hyades shall sing,
Where flap the tatters of the King,
Must die unheard in
Dim Carcosa.

Song of my soul, my voice is dead,
Die thou, unsung, as tears unshed
Shall dry and die in
Lost Carcosa.
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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2011, 08:10:34 am »
Hello,

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How do you propose moving these posts to the PMs? I can't see any other place for them besides PMs.

How about off-topic -section? Let me ask you something; Are you active much on Hive? Based on this I would say you are not.

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Explained above.

You didn't explain anything above about the siding issue, speaking of PR.

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Spam can mean all sorts of things. Which does include large chunks of irrelevant texts.

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what is this i dont even

...understand? Well tell you what, if Aero did give me the rights, and I had your permission, I certainly would go and delete all of your 150 off-topic posts, which is more than I have posts in total by the way.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2011, 08:33:08 am »
DD , let him win ,Chimito will never stop spliting  on us.Besides , Skasian apologise , so let him win.
The only thing that I'm sad about is that Aero didn't see the truth.Oh well.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2011, 08:44:30 am »
Hello,

Well, one of the most critic problems has already been solved, yes. But because Chimto hopped in, and can't understand our pain, then it'd be the best for both sides to let him feel it.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2011, 08:46:55 am »
So , now that we have decided that , can we please deleate this thread?
I don't want the whole TCO to know our "conflict".
« Last Edit: November 20, 2011, 02:08:47 pm by Blackdoom59 »

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2011, 08:59:42 am »
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How about off-topic -section?
No. You have to understand that your discussion is SOLELY with Black (ie it makes little sense to anyone else) and it doesn't relate to anyone else. Continuous posts like that just clog up the forums. When people are looking for new posts, they find something completely irrelevant.
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Let me ask you something; Are you active much on Hive? Based on this I would say you are not.
No. I'm too busy with this forum.
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You didn't explain anything above about the siding issue, speaking of PR.
It's YOUR fault for derailing the thread horribly, and Skasian was just doing the task of keeping the forums clear of spam.
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...understand? Well tell you what, if Aero did give me the rights, and I had your permission, I certainly would go and delete all of your 150 off-topic posts, which is more than I have posts in total by the way.
What? What posts?
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Well, one of the most critic problems has already been solved, yes. But because Chimto hopped in, and can't understand our pain, then it'd be the best for both sides to let him feel it.
u mad bro?
« Last Edit: November 20, 2011, 09:01:58 am by Chimto »
Along the shore the cloud waves break,
The twin suns sink behind the lake,
The shadows lengthen
In Carcosa.

Strange is the night where black stars rise,
And strange moons circle through the skies,
But stranger still is
Lost Carcosa.

Songs that the Hyades shall sing,
Where flap the tatters of the King,
Must die unheard in
Dim Carcosa.

Song of my soul, my voice is dead,
Die thou, unsung, as tears unshed
Shall dry and die in
Lost Carcosa.
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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2011, 09:10:49 am »
I see you answer everything mr.Chim(p)
Answer me this(with obscene language ofc , cuz I'm mad , bro)

Why in the f*ck can't we deleate this mother f*cking thread full of sh*t about our as*hole problem?

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2011, 09:20:40 am »
Hello,

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u mad bro?

No, I'm disappointed in your pathetic support towards PR.

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Re: Let's make some things clear
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2011, 02:08:02 pm »
DD , I'm not sure , but I guess you are an old friend of Aero.And , ofc , you feel somehow insulted that he didn't trust us , but he trusted the mr.Chim(p) and Skasy  , who posted "great" stuff at our site.But , if Aero wants to promote such giving up methodes , then let us follow his will , and give up.


I'm not sure you noticed , but since we had our conflict , the whole site "died".For realy , after we had our conflict , you see only me, you, Skasian , mr.Chim(p), Aero and sometimes doomlord.There are lots of guys that could say something (AdmOrian ,AriLaro,EndlessPain,Hellheaven,WsawW and so on..) but they didn't.

I'm preety sure I know why.It's because Skasian's action , they saw what he did and they were like:
"Sh*t , I'm goana get banned if I post off-topic , better shut up now".So our little conflict may have already turned 5%+ of TCO to a fear state , fear to the highter powers.

About that PR stuff , Aero got it all wrong , he is not that "greedy" kind of guy.He thinks for all @ TCO , the same problem is he got it all wrong.


That beeing said , i strongly sugest this thread be closed.And all the people that saw our fight , forget it , go on without it.Skasian feels sorry , Aero is not that mad , I for one , have no problem with this , and mr.Chim(p) has a proud mouth that will surely shut up soon.

Why do I suggest that this thread has to be closed?Well , ppl that have already seen our conflict , are eighter with us , or without us.And ofc , they're always with the highter powers  , so they are without us.And they may think we are some kind of freaks who did something barely legal.I do NOT want to be seen with such eyes , and if I will , I will soon retire from TCO , deleating all my posts and threads(with the modify , I type - instead of the first text , that is posible).