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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 01:09:01 pm »
Hello,

Black, your "Ultimate precision" has the same effect as my "Edge of Sharpening".

Although yours is activated differently, you shouldn't copy someone else's entry idea.
First I'd like to tell you that I HONESTLY never wached your "edge of sharpening" and that ideea camed to my mind accidentely.+ it's activated differently , so ther's no copy-paste.

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2011, 02:44:17 pm »
Hello,

The way the CK activates has very little to say if comparing two CKs of same effect; If mine was activated upon attacking, and yours upon being struck, how would you reply? That "they're still so different nevertheless"?

If there has been entries posted before yours, READ them so that you don't get blamed even by an accident if your idea has already been posted.

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2011, 04:06:33 pm »
Hello,

The way the CK activates has very little to say if comparing two CKs of same effect; If mine was activated upon attacking, and yours upon being struck, how would you reply? That "they're still so different nevertheless"?

If there has been entries posted before yours, READ them so that you don't get blamed even by an accident if your idea has already been posted.

Okey , okey you freak.Changed , happy now?

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2012, 12:28:18 pm »
Hello,

"As the time keeps moving on, so do the people amongst it all;
Should this scenario not prevail, would the result be insane."

It'd be about the time to judge this competition... For real-cakes.

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2012, 09:17:39 am »
Hello,

"As the time keeps moving on, so do the people amongst it all;
Should this scenario not prevail, would the result be insane."

It'd be about the time to judge this competition... For real-cakes.

I think every time someone tells Aero to hurry , Aero gets 30% more lazy.

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2012, 05:11:07 pm »
Okay guys I have fixed the Berserk Combat King. It works well now and Aero plans to re-introduce it in version 1.7. Just want to let you guys know that.

I will judge this competition tomorrow. And for people who don't understand why I'm allowed to judge instead of Aero, check from this post onwards.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2012, 08:04:14 am by Doomlord »

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2012, 03:57:00 pm »
Very nice ideas here.

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2012, 06:52:27 am »
Okay everybody this is the "experimental" judge speaking. Although Berserk Combat King has been fixed Aero said that he still welcomes new ideas from the members and due to some events I will judge this competition and Aero will decide whether I'm a good judge or not. So if he say that I'm not then this post will be deleted and he will judge this himself sometimes later. One more thing, TCO currently doesn't have any Critical Strike System so ideas involving critical strike will be marked as (Can't be made)

So we have 2 entries from Isofruit, 10 entries (duh) from Black, 4 entries from noal and 3 entries from Xavorn (previously known as DD Canada). We have a total of 19 entries, which forces me to only give the score of some entries and judge them briefly. Okay now on to the judging !

  • Isofruit
    • Bloodthirsty (Can't be made): This ability has a lot of potential in it. The idea seems nice and the presentation is good but the icon is a bit inapproriate. This ability is weak in the beginning but very strong in the end when characters have ultra-high attack speed and can crit continuously. Score: 3/5
    • Vengeful (Can't be made): This ability has a lot of potential in it too. The presentation and icon are fine but the ability seems to only mirror the first ability. The idea of retaliating with a critical strike is good but I think you can utilise it in another way. Score: 2.5/5
  • Blackdoom59
    • Anger: This ability is good to say the least. The presentation is well-made and your icon is okay. However a buff stacking indefinitely is something that, if coupled with high attack speed, will be way too imba. I do acknowledge that the buff only last 5s according to your entry but with a high enough attack speed, a character can stack about 5-6 buffs before losing the first one. And this ability is also quite weak in the beginning when the attack speed is still too low. Score: 2.5/5
    • Damage Seeking and Killing Spree: Damage Seeking is weak in the beginning when the attack speed is still too low but imba in the end. Killing Spree can be utilized to imba levels with Cleaving or AoE spells. Score: 2.5/5
    • Chosen Strike and Blood Steal: For these 2 entries I'm thinking about combining them and make them as a single ability so there will be bonus points for you. Score: 3/5
    • Ultimate Precision and Critical King (Can't be made): A bit too imba if the character's attack speed or HP is high enough. And Fradz can get higher HP than Phodom. Score: 2.5/5
    • Heaven's Enhancement: This ability is great but it seems to drift off from the concept of physical Combat King. This is one of my favorite ideas in this competition. Score: 3/5
    • Magic Weapon: This ability is simple, creative and effective. And I have already made something like this for Aero and he said that he will use this for a new passive for Galeoth. But there is no special or outstanding feature in this ability. Score: 4/5
    • Cleaving Attacker: The Blizzard-made ability Cleaving Attack with a different name. Score: 1/5 (Actually I would have given this a 0/5 score)
  • Noal
    • Rampage: This ability is balanced only for later chapters and not early chapters since no character can benefit from this skill at first levels. One good thing is that I have already made a spell quite similiar to this one. But your presentation is only average so I will have to minus some of your mark. Score: 3.5/5
    • Holy Enhancement(both version): This ability seems to repeat something already plenty in the campaign: Orb effect. Your spells are only Orb Effects with triggered damage and nothing special. Score: 2.5/5
    • Bloodseeker: This ability is limited by the presentation and the information given along with it. I don't really like this idea much but I think it has some hidden potential. Score: 2/5
  • Xavorn
    • Edge of Sharpening: This ability is undoubtedly the finest ability posted in the competition. Your presentation and icon are perfect, your idea is very creative and balanced. But unfortunately I think neither Aero nor I can do this because the attack damage of a unit can't be handled in WE without some additional JASS libraries which haven't been incorporated into the campaign yet. I would have given this a perfect score if the ability can be made. Score: 4/5
    • Bandaging Holyness: This ability is really good considering its simplicity and balance. It can also be made quite easily which is another great thing. However it doesn't seem to fit the physical CK theme of the competition.Score: 3.5/5
    • Numbing Into Corruption: This ability is a good and creative idea. It is actually a skill that I have never seen anywhere before in any RPG. But it doesn't fit the physical CK theme of the competition and so it loses mark. Score: 3/5

    Okay so we have 2 ideas that have the same score of 4/5. I will choose Magic Weapon because it can be made and incorporated into the campaign. So the winner is Blackdoom59. And I think Xavorn deserves a honorable title as a co-victor. Congratulations to both of you!
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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2012, 03:18:33 am »
Aren't someone supposed to be kicking my butt ? Aero ? Xavorn ?

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2012, 03:53:07 am »
I tried to do own critical system and I even asked help but everyone told me it's better to use the basic Blizzard Critical Strike. That is why I can't detect when it hits and that's why many of the ideas cannot be made. Sad.

"Edge of Sharpening" this cannot be done I believe, but it's good idea anyway.

Anyway, I read all the entries and wrote down all the interesting ideas that will be eventually used for items and abilities.

I think you did a good job with judging I didn't start to compared how you did with each entry.

I think the judging is acceptable. What does others think?

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2012, 08:15:22 am »
Hello,

Aren't someone supposed to be kicking my butt?

I don't know for that, but I'll do the scorchin'.

Aside from a few grammar mistakes, you actually forgot to judge one category of lesser priority (and no, it ain't the presentations, which you seem to have covered, though I don't know by what degree). Even if it could've affected a maximum of 0.5 points towards either direction (+/-), it's crucial in neck n' necks.

So hmm... Oh yes, so you chose Black as a winner because his idea was doable, however, you could've gone with the averages as well...

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2012, 08:40:26 am »
a few grammar mistakes, you actually forgot to judge one category of lesser priority (and no, it ain't the presentations, which you seem to have covered, though I don't know by what degree). Even if it could've affected a maximum of 0.5 points towards either direction (+/-), it's crucial in neck n' necks.

So what is that category?

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2012, 02:37:12 pm »
Hello,

So what is that category?

Naming.

Is the name grammatically correct? Is it unique? Is it acceptable and / or fitting?

Similar to titles in advertisements, they're to capture a fellow's attention.

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2012, 04:23:49 pm »
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Aside from a few grammar mistakes, you actually forgot to judge one category of lesser priority (and no, it ain't the presentations, which you seem to have covered, though I don't know by what degree). Even if it could've affected a maximum of 0.5 points towards either direction (+/-), it's crucial in neck n' necks.

Grammar Mistakes: Yes. Forgetting to judge the entries' name: No. I think that the names can be changed later. No big deal.

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So hmm... Oh yes, so you chose Black as a winner because his idea was doable, however, you could've gone with the averages as well...

I have seen noal's Rampage before. It is the Fervor ability in DotA. So the uniqueness is gone. The other 3.5/5 entry is Bandaging Holyness by you which doesn't really fit the physical CK theme so I can't choose it over Black's Magic Weapon.

Now I understand the excruciating pain of judging a single competition so I think I will be more than happy to hand the judging over to you. Just tell me if you want to.

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Re: Competition #36
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2012, 11:51:00 pm »
Hello,

Forgetting to judge the entries' name: No. I think that the names can be changed later. No big deal.

But that's like saying "yeah, his idea might contain pitfalls, but they can be changed later, no big deal". Yet, they're still determined by points.

Of course the names can be changed later, but why intentionally lessen its importance?

I have seen noal's Rampage before. It is the Fervor ability in DotA. So the uniqueness is gone. The other 3.5/5 entry is Bandaging Holyness by you which doesn't really fit the physical CK theme so I can't choose it over Black's Magic Weapon.

Emm... Well I was actually talking about the average point total.

Sum the points and divide them by the amount of entries of the corresponding user.

Now I understand the excruciating pain of judging a single competition so I think I will be more than happy to hand the judging over to you. Just tell me if you want to.

I'd have applied for that at the same time as you, if I had wished to. But I didn't because I feel like competitions should be judged by those who originally put it up, so if I was to judge competitions, they should be created by me, not by Aero, you, or anyone else.