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Zylcious Fight
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:12:33 pm »
By Tears request, I will explain the way that I used to beat that beast.

First stage of Zylcious you have to kill him with 0 MP. This fight could be annoying and sometimes he disappear from your screen and regenerates a lot. I highly recommend move away your camera from settings, so you can see a wide screen of the fight scene and try to stop his regen. If you kill him and no 0 MP, he comes back, and it will be harder, and try to bring him to 0 MP will be impossible, so if this happen maybe it is better reload from first.

Second part is a very good and enjoyable fight against Death Knights, I like it!!

Then Zylcious become a Demon, mmm this time I don't like because he is a lot of time invulnerable and sometimes even bug, a lot of times he disappear and never comes back and I stay stuck, so reload.

Don't forget to steal Doomsday to Uummut.

Final Dragon stage:

Firstable you will need to burn his mana, so this way stop his HP regen, so you need items like Mana Rod, Nagaeca and Combat King - Magic Torment. But the Dragon can steal this items so you need to have more than one Mana Rod, this is the key to burns his MP, 1% means that at least after 100 hits his mana will be 0, but you can do it more quickly with others items (Winter's Tear, Nagaeca, etc).
Mana Rod on Fradz so he has normally the best attack speed and Winter's Tear on Galeoth.

Second, I highly recommend have your alternative items very organized in your boxes, so when dragon steal you a main item you can quickly replace with another so good. Never put an item on ground, always manage them into boxes or after few seconds it will disappear.

Get a lot of Combat King is another key, magic damage on Galeoth, 5/5 resurrection and magic resistance on your heros. Sometimes your heros will be "naked" by his steal, so at least you need something to counter that.

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If you see a decreasing numbers in your hero (3! 2! 1!), just run!, if you stay there, your hero will be insta-killed.

At the stage of bombs, try to get far away from them and leave just Galoth to kill them, meanwhile press hold button on Phodom and Fradz.

If you hit the Dragon and his HP don't change, don't lose your time it is his illusion and you need to keep your spells for real Dragon.

At the stage of infernos I tried to avoid, stunning them and running out. That ones are very dangerous.

Dragon can invoke sometimes a blue summons (Shadow Elementals) that steal your mana and so Zylcious will recover his MP, so try to kill them so quickly and prepare Nagaeca or hit with Mana Rod Zylcious for a new fast burn of his mana gain.

Sometimes he cast a skulls that chasing you, my strategy against them was use Heaven's Bless (health cast of Phodom) on one hero, so he could die and nothing happen, meanwhile other two are getting away from skulls. Remember to turn on mana shield of Galeoth' Set every time he dies. Remember that you can use Heaven's Ring invulnerability (so Aero) even inside of your boxes.

Don't forget that you could benefit from your auras in your boxes, I have special items like Zocmo's Gloves and boots (I can't do the complete set, lack of Gem at ch 3), doom's helmet, you can active Horn of Balgaron.

If you lose much time the ground will become green and you will be surely dead, because his HP regen will be back even with no mana, so try always to avoid fight in this terrain. Also this terrain slow your movement speed.

And my finally highly recommend is have Impale (3rd Galeoth's spell book that you get at ch 7) improved with Colossal Damage. You can take advantage of 5% of his HP, it is a lot of damage.

Try to get a lot of saved games, for example I saved every time that I can take away a lot of his HP, and the name of saved files contain what happen during fight. For example: "Omega Set_Out" with this name, I'm 99% surely that I will reload maybe a previous different saved file next time, because try without this item is suicide, HP of Galoth is not prepared to such voltage.

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This way I beat Epic Quest, but if someone knows more tips, you could improve this thread. I just played one time on last 2.1c version (a lot in previous). This last time that I face this quest, I enjoyed it a lot, it was so challenge and I have to admit, I reload a lot of times that fight.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2015, 06:42:30 am by matias371 »

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Re: Zylcious Fight
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2015, 11:37:59 am »
Now I remember. I played on 2.1b and lost all my spell booka and espers in chapter 9 and 10. Yeah, impale is for sure pretty useful. If maegca ignores magic resistance / armor then it is also another useful item. 2 maegca deal 2 percent of hp every 30s, even stronger than impale. Unfortunately that is not how it works currently.

I cannot do much damage to Zyl, not enough for his imba regen. I dont know if it is a bug in 2.1b or not, didnt try it in 2.1c. Can you tell us your items set up for this fight?
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Re: Zylcious Fight
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2015, 10:39:54 pm »
Yes I had to play ch 9 another time to recover spells, yea, I'm a perfectionist person, so I always want to get everything and I can't see that spell in your inventory at:
http://tcocampaign.createaforum.com/index.php?topic=1522.0
I know, it is just a play to get resources and then give up, so no problem.

Tears our play style is so different, I think that your strategy seems kind like Hamza play. I respect your built and when I saw your heroes built I thought in change one item of basic attack by magic damage on Galeoth. Meanwhile your built has a lot of magic damage, I try to get a survival and a high basic attack damage on my heroes, that is my focus in my built. When I showed my heroes in that post, I got a lot of bonus stats by finish previously campaign in Extreme mode, and bonus from a lot of items, so my heroes can't be compared with your heroes. Basically my item built to beat Zylcious only differ with I showed at that threat on Ice Diamond changed by Greatest Magic Ball and Nether Staff by Winter's Tear. Galeoth's basic damage is close to 16k and his magic damage is 18k.

Magaeca do 100k damage and you could get 2. So you can steal 200k every 30 secs, so after 90 secs you do same damage of Impale Spell Book (it has 300 secs of cd and hit him by 600k plus Galeoth magic damage). Damage of Magaeca is so nice and I knew that I can do it, but I didn't want to carry much items like that, because a lot of damage but no survival, nor plus stats, armor, regen, HP and neither MP. I had Mana Rod and Nagaeca and to me was enough, I didn't want to spend more slots in items like that. Whit this built I can send my heroes to fight face to face and I don't need stuns, just pay attention when enemy will cast something special, so my damage is constant and my basic attack is so high that I can get a lot of his HP. After mana depleted I could change Nagaeca by Magaeca, but I didn't remember and my main fear was that he got mana again. My fight was like 15 mins, so I could hit impale 3 times (near to 2 million of his HP).

I can see that your problem not was lack of strategy, so you are requesting for the most super imba bimba combo that I can imagine. I didn't do next advice during fight but you can talk me what you think about this (your heroes spells built that you showed in last threat can do this combo):

Max scissor stab (-25 armor), hit Zylcious 5 times with Cripple Triple Axe (if your luck is above of 30, just use evil eyes to get that item from lucky box, yea you will lost Destiny :/, but Doomsday is even better), I don't know why CT Axe item is bug, because if you hit 6 times, the armor effect disappear. Ok continue, you can have Doom Helmet inside of your boxes (if you don't see the effect on Dragon, just change the item to another box), ok until know, Dragon could have -60 armor, now you can cast Frozen Fang (-20 armor by 5 secs), so your enemy has -80 armor (yea so smooth like a Pie), Frozen Fang has a delay, so cast it first and then cast Frozen Paradise (basic attack will be doubled), immediately finish with Fradz's Teleport Strike. I imagined this combo today, so tell me if you think that combo would work.

BTW I never put Headbutt spell on Phodom, which could damage by 1% of enemy HP, Phodom could lost 10% of his HP, but at this stage it doesn't matter, only insta-kill cast can affect a hero with more than 30k HP. This spell looks pretty interesting.

I have to confess that I didn't know that he could regen above green ground. I just hit him every second that I could.

Best luck with that beast.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2015, 12:03:25 am by matias371 »

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Re: Zylcious Fight
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 03:57:49 am »
I dont have spell book so i just beat him to death :D
Relatively fast with galeoth except the green ball thing that can pierce mana shield
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 10:28:01 am »
Actually what I shown on Show Your Heroes threat is my 1st play through. I was accumulating money for higher difficult. My 2nd play through I played on Extreme. I know that Winter Tear is a nice item but I don't have enough luck point in my 2nd play through, I got a Behearlm (dont remember its name) and sold it.

On second play through, I used lots of 100% HP regen and all my character all have about 1k5 - 3k hp regen, so I have no problem with survival at all. My damage is not also a problem too, because both my physical damage and magic damage are high (I replaced Sunrise Set and Holgo with 2 greatest magic ball, I'm playing on Extreme anyway :) . Maybe in 2.1b the hp regen of Zylcious is really imba? He heals like thoudsands hp / sec, not 12-24k/sec as Aero say. Anyway, if everything is OK, I'll go streaming in **** mode. I finished Extreme mode anyway, and Universe Orb is not that useful imo, so it's OK to start a new game without it. I'm too lazy to replay chapter 10 and kill and that Monstrosity again ~~ .

And yeah, Headbutt looks promising, but as I remember it's bugged or just affect a specific group. If it doesn't I'll try it next time, definitely.

There's still one thing that bugs me, Why Nagaeca deals exactly 100k MP but Magaeca doesn't deal 100k HP? Is this a bug? Or it's intended? Poision Sting too, when I use it on Uummut, it deals only about 3k / sec, didn't try on Zylcious. Aero, can you confirm this? Will these items ignore armor and resistance or not?
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Re: Zylcious Fight
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2015, 01:08:26 pm »
Anyone have killed Super Uummut?

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There's still one thing that bugs me, Why Nagaeca deals exactly 100k MP but Magaeca doesn't deal 100k HP
Will fix it. I make that + Poison Sting pure damage.

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 01:21:29 am »
Uummut is just far more easier than Zyl last phase, I can always kill him in Extreme mode, 1st and 2nd time and achieve a heroic achievement. Just let Hekkhan alive and it's ok, Hekkhan has a super healing spell, it would keep the fight from being ended. The most deadly thing about Uummut is his basic attack release lots of waves, but since all of my heroes have at least 1k5 hp regen, he can't even make a scratch to my heroes. The only thing we have to watch out is his massive waves skill, when he stands still, just run to his back and everything will be OK, if you cannot do this due to his stun or Hekkhan's stun, just cast a resurrection spell on the heroes who are still in front of him.

The fight will last long because he has lots of HP and magic resistance, it took me about more than 40 minutes but it's just easier than Zylcious since he doesn't have any healing spell.
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Re: Zylcious Fight
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 04:03:30 am »
40 min...? What. What! WHAT!?

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 04:47:40 am »
What? Is it too long, or too short? I killed him on Extreme (2.1b).
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 05:07:00 am »
That's pretty long battle. 40 min I mean. I wonder if I have ever fought any boss in any game that long.

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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 08:28:43 am »
Actually it takes that long is because of the lag of Fradz set. It is like I spam all of my spell and then run, wait until it stops lagging and continue ~~

 
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Re: Zylcious Fight
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 06:17:39 pm »
Aha, that sucks.

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Re: Zylcious Fight
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2015, 12:53:42 pm »
Anyone have killed Super Uummut?

How can you fight Super Uummut?

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Re: Zylcious Fight
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2015, 08:20:34 am »
Not that hard just use galeoth(with omega set, ice diamond, and mana shield) or phodom with heavy hp and regen to tank all the attacks while fradz attack from behind. The only thing you need to be careful of is the charged wave attack. The other attack just not enough to kill your heroes in one hit. Cast amulet of bless to galeoth and seal of ressurection to fradz and heaven's bless to phodom. So even you screwed up you will be resurrected. I have lvl 5 resurrection combat kings for all my heroes so not so easy to died.

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Re: Zylcious Fight
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2015, 04:18:52 am »
i mean where do you find super ummut?