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Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« on: January 05, 2015, 06:04:08 pm »
A lot of people asking about this battle. I admit it is the hardest battle in game I've ever faced.
There are 3 stages of this boss which will need different items and gameplays.

I finish this boss with no give-up **** mode. Maybe you ask how i get so many item with no give up. I use the gold items at Fradz and i get about 2,5 gold more (about 150% bonus), though it makes the game harder and longer. I have 6 slot items of gold and experience stats.

Phodom 

Skill build
Blazing Fury
Meltdown            level 4
Flame Explosion  level 10
Heaven's Bless   level 12
Aura of Fire         level 13
Chaotic Rft          level 8

Item

Phodom's Set
Aero
Sargatanas
Gilmax
Elemental Staff
Azureus Set

Fradz

Sword Dance
Discharge                   Level 4 (Personally i really dont like this skill at all better open scissor stab)
Flash Strike                Level 15
Blessing of Lightning  Level 11
Invisible Strike            Level 4
Teleport Strike            Level 8

Item

Fradz's Set
Lifestealer
Zocmo's Set
Heavy Divine Maximilian
Dragon Buster
Jade Set

Galeoth
Seal of Ressurection
Magical Hammer Level 7
Frozen Fang       Level 12
Inner Light         Level 7
Magic Convert    Level 13
Frozen Paradise Level 8

Items

Galeoth's Set
Excalibur
Crown of Magic
Life's Stone
Battlemage Set
Ring of Wisdom

Stage 1
Items that are useful : -

It is easy just like facing espers no need to change any item or anything just whack the espers.
First esper not really hard.
Second esper you just need to run when he turned invulnerable.
Whack yurgimar till died.

Stage 2
Items needed in this stage :
amulet of magic, dark amulet, qzoch's set, giga ring/tera ring(anything to replenish your mana),
amulet of bless (nice item you get it from chapter 4 prospero, it is like seal of resurrection but also give you increased attack speed and lifesteal, and the best of all you dont need it to be in your inventory. Just pick it up use it to one of your hero and you can drop it. If you don't call this item really nice I dont know what else.)

There are 3 out of 4 debuff that you must choose.
The upper left room have 0% evasion debuff
The upper right have 0 mana debuff.
The lower left have disabled health and mana regen.
The lower right make you can't use panels (esper, potion, spellbook)

Don't go to the upper right chamber it is damn hard to fight with 0 mana.
My order is lower right first. I dont really need the panels and i never use it because i sell all my spellbook for money and I lost the espers because a leak in the game cache so it is not really affect anything.
Second is upper left. Evasion debuff is useful but it is easy to counter this one. When Phodom or Fradz get attacked and in critical condition use flash strike on fradz it will set yurgimar aggro to fradz which have 100% evasion skill from flash strike, with life steal it will replenish its health to full.
Third is lower left. You should change one of your items to item that replenish mana like amulet of great magic and dark amulet, so you will be able to regen your mana.

In this fight everything in each chamber is almost the sama. The difference is only the debuff.
Some skills that Yurgimar have
Normal attack : normally 5000 damage, sometimes can critical about 16000 damage
Knock hero : It will knock your hero far away sometimes it will get bugged and make you pushed outside of the box. He will used it when he doesnt attack and raise his hand.
Teleport away : it will teleport your hero to the edge of the box. When you pushed out of the box dont panic and just wait until he used this skill and you will be back inside.
Summon yurgimar illusion : Summon an illusion of himself.
Summon Chosen Ones illusion : it is the hardest skills to counter. He will summon phodom fradz or galeoth and every attack you made to this illusion it will damage your hero as well. If he summon one of three it is easy just use heaven's bless to the hero and you can whack the illusion till death without afraid of dying. If there are 3 you should run away, attack and heal simultanously to avoid death. You also can use phodom chaotic rift which will help you to run and kill the one you desired first. I recommend everyone have about 10k hp at least so it wont be too easy to died.


Next stage when you have enter three chambers, one yurgimar will be summoned to each chamber. You must kill it all to win.

Items which are useful : Replenish mana item and movement speed item (zocmo's Set, aero)

The hardest part is here. You must be really good at microing unit to win this. There are 4 yurgimars, when they are not attacked they will channeling spells that will damage you (like Hekhar's spell). You must interrupt them to cancel the spell or you will be as good as dead. It is easy if you can split your heroes to engage each one of them but they have bone regeneration which make it really hard to kill alone.

The strategy is to have 2 of your party whack one dragon until it dead while the other one try to interrupt all the other 3. This is really need a good micro skill because the attacked yurgimar can cast somekind of death red star spell? that instantly kill all around him.

The items that will be essential in this fight is amulet that can restore mana. Other items which will be useful is movement speed and lifesteal items. I use phodom to interrupt because he is the one which have lowest dps and he have maximum movement speed from zocmo,s set aura and aero.

It will get easier as one of yurgimar died. It will get easier and easier you will need to microing around for only 3 minutes. The firs 3 minutes will be hard but the later it is easier.

For stealing bone armor. Do you know you can steal it before the epic boss fight even starts?
Equip Fradz with all steal items you have and use three paths and holgro for stats. Go to Yurgimar and there is a dialog box to ready the epic boss answer no. You are still near to Yurgimar and he is not invulnerable. Use all the steal items and steal it voila you will get bone armor.

I will upload a video or picture of the battle later because my connection isnt really good so wait for it
« Last Edit: January 10, 2015, 01:55:38 am by angky5p »

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Re: Yurgimar battle
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2015, 08:01:25 am »
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I usually die of TCO illusions because Yurgimar just keeps summoning them. Many times I have to face 6 of them at a time. I have a different items set up:

- Don't buy Gilmax => enough money for 2 Wizard Boots, which gives you: 150 ms (so good), Mana while moving (even more cool). At chapter 9, you would have around 10-12 magic balls (3k - 3k6 magic damage) which are more useful than Gilmax => I can get rid of Zocmo Set / Amulet of Magic / Steal MP/HP or restore MP/HP items.
- Basically I just give Fradz Aero, Phodom and Galeoth each 1 Wizard Boots => now they all have 450 ms, Phodom and Galeoth can heal themselves, Fradz can run and heal + lots of life steal.
- I also use some resurrection items like: Miracle Shield for Fradz (from c8 lucky box), Holy Seal for Phodom (nice 20% magic damage, can be used to replace your sargatanas which I don't even make). For Galeoth, I just cast Amulet of Bless on him, since he's hard to die (with mp shield and 1st tier ice shield). Azureus Set is so expensive and so useless IMO. I'm very impress that you managed to buy both Zocmo and Azureus set without give up.

Phodom: caster + tanker + healer
- Phodom Set
- Wizard Boots
- 11 Greater Balls
- Holy Seal
- Crown of Magic
- Ice Diamond (for 5k mana, the effect is bugged, it would be best if it is not bugged)

Fradz: focus on as + life steal + offensive effects (from jade / maximillan / excalibur)
- Fradz Set
- Aero
- Life Stealer
- Excalibur
- Maximilan
- Miracle Shield

Galeoth: another dps + offensive effects with enough magic damage to cast heal
- Galeoth Set
- Wizard Boot
- Soldier III Set
- Elemental Staff
- Jade Set
- Shard of Shadow

The only down side of this build is I don't have mana burn items and depends almost on magic torment combat king. I solve this by buying 3 Mana Rod, I plan to exchange Ice Dimond / Excalibur / Shard of Shadow for them before 3rd phase. However, I have never done that, why? => My bad luck, Yurgi just keeps spawning heroes, lots of them. It's nothing if I can load my game but my warcraft just keep crashing when I load my save games during phase 2. So in finally I just give up.

But I find it's pretty easy to beat 2nd phase of Yurgimar using this build since I just fight like normal, no worry about health / mana, they would never run out (sometimes Fradz does, then I just exchange Aero and Wizard Boots and run around, no big problem).

I hope next time when the final version is released, I would able to beat him, this time for sure.

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Re: Yurgimar battle
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2015, 03:47:39 am »
Where is the like button?
WHERE IS THE LIKE BUTTON?

I usually die of TCO illusions because Yurgimar just keeps summoning them. Many times I have to face 6 of them at a time. I have a different items set up:

- Don't buy Gilmax => enough money for 2 Wizard Boots, which gives you: 150 ms (so good), Mana while moving (even more cool). At chapter 9, you would have around 10-12 magic balls (3k - 3k6 magic damage) which are more useful than Gilmax => I can get rid of Zocmo Set / Amulet of Magic / Steal MP/HP or restore MP/HP items.
- Basically I just give Fradz Aero, Phodom and Galeoth each 1 Wizard Boots => now they all have 450 ms, Phodom and Galeoth can heal themselves, Fradz can run and heal + lots of life steal.
- I also use some resurrection items like: Miracle Shield for Fradz (from c8 lucky box), Holy Seal for Phodom (nice 20% magic damage, can be used to replace your sargatanas which I don't even make). For Galeoth, I just cast Amulet of Bless on him, since he's hard to die (with mp shield and 1st tier ice shield). Azureus Set is so expensive and so useless IMO. I'm very impress that you managed to buy both Zocmo and Azureus set without give up.

Phodom: caster + tanker + healer
- Phodom Set
- Wizard Boots
- 11 Greater Balls
- Holy Seal
- Crown of Magic
- Ice Diamond (for 5k mana, the effect is bugged, it would be best if it is not bugged)

Fradz: focus on as + life steal + offensive effects (from jade / maximillan / excalibur)
- Fradz Set
- Aero
- Life Stealer
- Excalibur
- Maximilan
- Miracle Shield

Galeoth: another dps + offensive effects with enough magic damage to cast heal
- Galeoth Set
- Wizard Boot
- Soldier III Set
- Elemental Staff
- Jade Set
- Shard of Shadow

The only down side of this build is I don't have mana burn items and depends almost on magic torment combat king. I solve this by buying 3 Mana Rod, I plan to exchange Ice Dimond / Excalibur / Shard of Shadow for them before 3rd phase. However, I have never done that, why? => My bad luck, Yurgi just keeps spawning heroes, lots of them. It's nothing if I can load my game but my warcraft just keep crashing when I load my save games during phase 2. So in finally I just give up.

But I find it's pretty easy to beat 2nd phase of Yurgimar using this build since I just fight like normal, no worry about health / mana, they would never run out (sometimes Fradz does, then I just exchange Aero and Wizard Boots and run around, no big problem).

I hope next time when the final version is released, I would able to beat him, this time for sure.

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Nice build too there. My build is not absolute though. Every build that work is okay.
But personally, I dont really like wizard boots because all of my hero already have maximum speed except galeoth (about 450) Its because the aura of zocmo's set. It increase 20% (or 25 i forgot) attack and movement speed. I wouldn't recommend it in hardcoure though because phodom is too squishy with that build. I have 25k health phodom (i have jewel of health, andenaj I, and andenaj II, ruby axe which give 1000+ hp bonus per chapter) and can die about 10 second if yurgimar get critical 2 times in a row. I wont recommend ice diamond and mana shield though it decrease your mana like hell I like it bugged more. Battlemage set more better for galeoth it increase 1 armor for every 100 mana you have which give me 100 armor and literally take no damage from physical hit. With high level magic convert you can use your mana and magic damage to basic attack damage (I have about 8000 basic atk damage which so painful, not to mention lvl5 magic torment).

I think your build more focused to spell power, but my build is different. I used the magic damage and convert it to basic attack (that why i focused on attack speed too, which i think more powerful because i have zocmo) with sargatanas and high level magic convert.

My build is not perfect though.
Any other build is welcomed here maybe i can get some inspiration from the others too.

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Re: Yurgimar battle
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2015, 04:57:09 pm »
So Galeoth is the best attacker in the end?

Hahaa! My plan has finally worked!

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Re: Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2015, 05:16:43 pm »
where do i get the last piece of fradz set?! btw i never killed yurgimar
i killed yurgimar at last wasting 50 lives at last :P and how i have missed that exelorien 3 for so many years i think it in ch7 im right?!and  i gonna start again ... my english is bad
« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 06:33:39 pm by xhonisr »

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Re: Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2015, 04:01:32 am »
yea it's chapter 7 (terdoom castle I forgot which chapter)
Go buy elexorien II and after you defeat grotz go to the east side of the castle and receive elexorien III from Tharo.

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Re: Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2015, 05:43:40 pm »
about killing that Bone Dog  with no give ups such a lie :P it sucks (if u cheat u can beat it with 1 time playing this game ofc) but normally u got no chance especially buying some parts of the sets in early stages u will get 1 part and miss another one + u need materials (zozi since u dont have enough gold to get a true zozi.,crystals and amethysts and sh1ts and recipes + combat kings for all the heroes a lot )so i need only 1 answer how u can make both azureus and zocmo set and u say that u use gold item on fradz but i have to remind u that phodom and galeoth dont have one and until they meet there are 3 chapters that means 3 parts of both sets no gold items so buying the items u have its a bit impossible for no give ups

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Re: Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2015, 06:19:57 pm »
xhonisr, you can't incriminate Angky in a cheat abuse so easy man, he told us previously in another threat that he sells his spell books to get early money and there is a lot of ways to get more money without cheating.

I know, Azereus set sucks and it is an item finished on ch 7 and outdated to ch 8, and such a waste of money, omg!

I just post this thread in hive a few mins ago, but you can see that I have the power to beat that "Dog" even in no give-up and there is short explanation of how I could do it:

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/2652640-post5347.html

That was I want to do! a video of that fight, if I can find another recorder program that works in XP different of Xsplit, soon I will post it.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2015, 06:25:02 pm by matias371 »

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Re: Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2015, 03:16:01 am »
about killing that Bone Dog  with no give ups such a lie :P it sucks (if u cheat u can beat it with 1 time playing this game ofc) but normally u got no chance especially buying some parts of the sets in early stages u will get 1 part and miss another one + u need materials (zozi since u dont have enough gold to get a true zozi.,crystals and amethysts and sh1ts and recipes + combat kings for all the heroes a lot )so i need only 1 answer how u can make both azureus and zocmo set and u say that u use gold item on fradz but i have to remind u that phodom and galeoth dont have one and until they meet there are 3 chapters that means 3 parts of both sets no gold items so buying the items u have its a bit impossible for no give ups

Now that i've finished the campaign on extreme with 2 life spent from Zylicious death skulls and 1 from Yurgimar my perspective has changed entirely.
My characters didn't die because the campaign is too hard.
Yurgimar take 1 life from me with clones because i allowed him by not using my Chaotic Rift and Frozen Paradise for clones.
Zylicious take 2 life from me because i have no Heaven's Bless, no Rallying Shout, and no Aero. I have no choice but to take casualties from his death skulls.

For crying out loud, you can actually finish the campaign on **** without any give up or the end with no cheats. Seriously. Right skills and items work wonders.

About the gold issue i finished the campaign netting 100k gold (take 90k from riddle and you end with 10k), bought all spells, bought Azureus Set, and 30 honor points. Should've sold everything except Impale.

Among the skills available I personally find Heaven's Bless, Blessing of Lightning, Seal of Ressurection, and Magic Convert irreplaceable.
About the ultimate :
Chaotic rift is the cheapest lifesafer. Every 90 seconds you can cast it and no one is going to die for the duration of the spell.
Teleport strike is the best DPS. Always give armor debuff + warcry before. Remember that Seal of Ressurection resets cooldown - including Fradz set. Sometimes it is better to let him die to dish massive damage in just mere seconds and recast Seal of Ressurection.
Frozen Paradise is the best anti adds because it disables and doubles your attack damage. Always save this skill for Yurgimar shadow clones and not to mention a lot other mega kill adds!!!

Among the items available I personally find these items irreplaceable for survival :
  • Phodom : Prior to ch9 you should use Andenaj III and Inner Stone (60% magic resist!). Yurgimar Pentagram barely stratched.
    Ch10 if you have Oelivert or Leviathan Armor jail the Angel for Stormbringer for Fradz. Otherwise spare the Angel for Stormguard. Phodom is naturally beefy and if your Phodom dies before ch9 Yurgimar something is wrong with your setup / skill. 
  • Fradz : Qzoch's Set. Saves you the headache of Fradz dying. Replaced by Yin and Yang for even more powerful heal. Give Maxmillian to Fradz. If you're still dying use Azureus Set and if you don't have it use anything that buffs survivability
  • Galeoth : Galeoth Set + Omega Set. Tanked Ummut like a boss. Prior to ch10 use Battlemage Set for 100 armor and anything with the highest +HP which you do not use, usually Andenaj III.

Zozi items mostly suck and also cost a lot despite their uselessness.
All you need is Terra Ring at ch5, Ice Crown at ch6, Andenaj III and Shadow Armor at ch7, and Aero at ch9 (you won't need it beforehands) and forget about the rest.
Life Stone : not bought due because Terra Ring is mandatory.
Lifestealer : managed to survive just with Qzoch Set.
Dragon Buster : if you're going DPS on Phodom you're going nuts.
Super Holgro : not really needed not to mention that it's really expensive.
Sargatanas : total crap.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 06:01:54 am by hauw »

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Re: Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2015, 03:59:50 am »
about killing that Bone Dog  with no give ups such a lie :P it sucks (if u cheat u can beat it with 1 time playing this game ofc) but normally u got no chance especially buying some parts of the sets in early stages u will get 1 part and miss another one + u need materials (zozi since u dont have enough gold to get a true zozi.,crystals and amethysts and sh1ts and recipes + combat kings for all the heroes a lot )so i need only 1 answer how u can make both azureus and zocmo set and u say that u use gold item on fradz but i have to remind u that phodom and galeoth dont have one and until they meet there are 3 chapters that means 3 parts of both sets no gold items so buying the items u have its a bit impossible for no give ups

I don't why you are saying this. The fact you can't do it doesn't mean no one can't. Watch other threads to see how people play before jumping to conclusion that someone is telling lies. The deadliest thing abou Yurgi is his TCO's illusions, other than that he's just a simple boss. Even at his 3rd state you can just easily burn up all his mp with Omega gglove, no special items needed. Therefore, don't think people is telling lies just because you can't do it.

To be honest, I don't like the way you replied to others. Even if your English is bad, you should show respect to others by using commas and periods, and by avoiding strong and offensive words. Not only in this thread, I have this feeling in every threads you replied to. :| Furthermore, Yurgima has a name, show respect to Aero by using his name instead. You can call him beast, it's OK, he's hard in anyway, but I just can't accept the fact that you call him a "Bone Dog".
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Re: Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2015, 01:49:02 pm »
Absolute. Godsend. Was finding it tricky but bearable until the massive health drain spell came into play and didn't have a clue how to stop it. now I have a fighting chance.

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Re: Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2015, 01:58:12 am »
Absolute. Godsend. Was finding it tricky but bearable until the massive health drain spell came into play and didn't have a clue how to stop it. now I have a fighting chance.

I could've tanked all four Yurgimars with my Phodom alone.
Pentagram barely stratched. All you need is a single Inner Stone (60% magic resist, that makes 85% with level 5 magic resist) and either Heaven's Bless and Shield of Flame always active on Phodom. Since Yurgimar does not have instant kill move, Oelivert makes things easier.

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Re: Yurgimar battle **** No Give-up
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2015, 11:23:36 am »
Hehe, Aero did some tiny change on lastest version and it make this battle became really easy than ever( ****, no Give up and no Load from the end of course) [-).Don't you believe it? Let's see!
 The hardest thing in this fight is Yurgimar keep summoning the illusions of your heroes so you die all the time then lost because Life is disable on ****( you can run around to avoid fighting with illusions but Yurgimar's hp regenerate like hell and in first play, you don't have enough damage )
 Now, by using Tera ring( upgrade from Mega ring) and Ring of wisdom( Lucky box ch.7) you can reach lv 105 in ch.9, then use Death Skipe ( steal in ch.6) on one of your hero, it will instantly kill the illusions without any harm to your heroes( it also instantly kill the second esper in phase 1, cool right?). Without illusions, Yurgimar just like a normal boss but it still challenge in last phase, you'd better have well prepared for that.