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Strategie Debate: What is you spell build?
« on: October 28, 2010, 11:49:45 pm »
Alright alright, I know this won't be much of a debate. But hey, I still want to know how everyone plays TCO.

Notes/Rules
1) You do NOT have to do every character
2) You are NOT limited to one build
3) You are NOT limited in using spells only in the game
4) You CAN use a spell you would like to suggest for the hero
5) You CAN use spell book spells.
6) You SHOULD only list the spells you use, passives are included.
7) you MUST list at least ONE spell build to be apart of this debate
7a) Administrators are NOT bound in any way to the above rule, but it is preferred if they did follow it.
8) If items are a main part of your spell build, please list them as an item. "Item: (item name)"

Alright, anyway, here is how it'll go, you first list spells by character, so like this.
  • (Charater Name): (Spell build name, or "(your name here)'s Spell build)
  • Spell 0
  • Spell 1
  • Spell 2
  • Spell 3
  • Spell 4

And so on. After EACH spell build, list its strengths then ANY weakness you find. So for an example of above's spell build

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Strengths: This build is great for short bursts of high dps making it easy for you to take down that mini boss easily without risking others


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Weaknesses: Lacks long term dps, is mana dependent, weakens the character's survivability for long battles like epic bosses.

If there is a counter to the weaknesses in the build being solved by items, please state which item and how it counters the weakness. For an example.

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Item counters: (insert hp and armor bonus item here) increases the characters survivability, and (insert major mana regeneration item here) makes those short bursts of high dps much longer because of the increased mana/sec giving the character more mana to fire off that high dps.

Okay, now that the builds is out of the way, next step. DEBATING!

Alright, after reviewing someone's spell build, list any weaknesses you see,  any comments, any modifications, or any strengths that you think they missed. An example below.

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  • Weakness: The short bursts of high dps will make it hard with a huge mob.
  • Strength: The high dps will make it great with a huge mob because its AoE.
  • Comments: That's a great build, I think I'll try it.
  • Modification: Instead of (item/spell name here) you should try (item/spell name here), or use (item/spell name here) after using (item/spell name here)

Alright, I think that is it. If you think I missed anything, or if there is something that shouldn't be there, or if you think I should add another rule/note, just leave it in the reply like below.

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Re: Strategie Debate: What is you spell build?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2010, 05:36:28 am »
Okay, here's my Fradz build. It's called FRADZ THE CASTER!

Abilities

Illusory Double - This category is pretty useless for my build so I picked randomly this one.
Discharge - This is the key to this build, low cooldown means massive damage.
Lightning Mastery - More magic damage.
Energy Ball - Damage from far away and if Fradz got damaged I'll use this one to get hit points to full and remove the agro from Fradz.
Blessing of Lightning - Gives intelligence meaning magic damage will raise once again.
Lightning Orb - To buff other party members and a good damage dealer. Not probably the best choice in the end.

Items

I try to have magic damage items to increase abilities' and spell book spells damages.


Strong sides of this build:

- Fradz stays far enough from enemies and shouldn't take damage.
- Incredible high amount spell damages. Discharge and spell book spells deals most of the damage.

Weak sides of this buid:

- Fradz is very weak.
- Chapter 2 will be the hardest part because there is no Phodom who can tank.
- I also use Galeoth as a damage dealer meaning I have to split the magic damage items between 2 characters.

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Re: Strategie Debate: What is you spell build?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2010, 08:33:57 am »
Oh, allright. I don't trully remember every skill name, but here it goes. This is my Phodom Build and I call it "Phodom FTW".

Abilities :

Avatar - Since first time I played I used it. It's bonus str make you a hard tanker and gives a strong attack bonus.
Shield Of Fire - Heal, extra armor, quick cooldown. I just love this one.
Flame Explosion - 2 seconds stun, area damage. Nice for taking bosses and mobs down.
(The one i don't remember the name but the icon is a hand) - Stun and high damage.
Fire Mastery - Extra skill damage.
Phoenix Combo - I like the skill name ^^ and the "stun" of the combo working can be used to manage the other 2 guys a little.

Items :

Nice item sets (including Silver Set - yeah i know, wtf, but i use it with Phodom), high damage itens like Dragon Buster and passive recovery items.

Strong Side :

-As i pick Galeoth and Fradz as support, Phodom do all the job while the other 2 just disable the enemies or heal him, which means Phodom is hard to kill. Very hard.
-Against solo bosses (Talloon, Death Puppet, Dragon bosses in 6th and 7th chapter) its easy to kill.
-Phodom will tank and cause damage, so Fradz won't die nor Galeoth.
-Easy to solo Phodom chapters.

Weak Side :

-Galeoth and Fradz will be weaklings, which means they will be VERY easily take down (as when i played chapter 6, Fradz had to stay back while Phodom did the job).
-Against group bosses (Forgotten Ones) you are sure dead if you do a single mistake.
-It requires a lot of microing ability and i don't have it 100% yet  :P.
I usually don't hang in chat, so if you want, for some weird reason, communicate with me, send me a pm :)

My favorite character is
Phodom, Fradz is insane. And... Galeoth

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Re: Strategie Debate: What is you spell build?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 09:25:25 am »
Fradz: Third ranked dragonslayer!

Spell 1 - Sword Dance
Spell 2 - Doesn't really matter, but i picked Discharge
Spell 3 - Invisibility
Spell 4 - Flash strike or whatever
Spell 5 - Speed boost
Ultimate - Teleport strike

Now, Items i get are dps items and / or critical effect ones. I also like the combat king that stores attack

The build is the strongest In my opinion. With Adrenaline rush + items + speed boost + sword dance

You reach Full attack speed and a 1.600 damage each attack, you do about 35 attacks before effect wears off and you get 3 stored strikes. Thats more than 10k damage. And it gets better with every dps item you get. Awesome :P

Pros:
-Imba damage
-With invisibility it is easy to solo chap. 2

Cons:

Only the tanking thing is a con. But it can be easily solved with heavens bless/fire armor, plus frad'z hi armor, plus bonus from speed boost.

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Re: Strategie Debate: What is you spell build?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2011, 08:20:20 pm »
Build for Phodom:

I don't really like phodom much, but since he is the one we most play...(Beta is only to chapter 5 this moment)

Warcry: Bonus damage for Fradz(talk about it later)
(Dont remember name but icon is a hand): 3 seconds stun and a good dmg
Aura of Fire: This will help you A LOT against those average mobs, and with some other battles too*.
Heaven's Bless: Excellent healing skill that will save you many lives if leveled up.
Flame explosion: Your area stun that is much better than your other option - Ground Zero - ( i think :-\).
Dark Rift: Area dmg and dmg reduction to those damn bosses that relies on those criticals and high damage(like the fishterns).

Good side:
Will serve the job with the mana regeneration that isn't hard to get.
Will be your life saver on epic/elite bosses

Bad side:
Not much damage, so battles will last long and can come to be boring
you rely too much on your abilities so if stuned/silenced, you will be just a burden


For phodom i have really much mana regeneration so he can go whack everyone and be with mana for the future ones...
Miraga's set is a good choice, ruby axe is gotten at chapter 4 if possible(dragon inn is have too much mercenaries playing with your hard - work money), trinket of righteousness is a good choice too, and i don't remenber now but there is an item that regenerate ur mana every cast and can be gotten at chapter 4(thank god that anoying chapter serves for good itens).

*:Your first skill on chapter 1 i presume, cuz it will help lvl up against wuzz warriors and the small fishterns).

SPECIAL MENTION ABOUT THE AURA OF FIRE:
On chapter 4 epic boss(dragon spirit), there is a point when the floor is filled with those wisp/land mines that can trap you if you're unnaware, the aura can solve it, just aproach the wisp(But not too much), and let the aura do the job, don't forget that the wisps count as kills for miragas set, so if out of mana, just aproach one if youre with no potions...
This is a spell build aimed for a dps frads to don't die while wacking the enemy...


Fradz build:
Sword Dance: Superb atack speed for him, but makes him squishy.
Lightning Ball: Almost a must be for fradz.
Invisible strike: Even if the lightning mastery is a temptation, i like more to see him able to escape from dangerous situations...
Tempest Boost: Boost mana and life to dangerous situations
Purge( i call it that way): A debuffing and slowing skill.
Teleport Strike: Ivulnerable atacks combined with high agility = High dmg


The difference you will notice is on his itens...
On chapter 2, u will need to get the Thief Set for nobrainer reasons:
U need stealing for completing sets and good equipments
It's fradz duty...
Archeon set that can turn into Topaz axe
Silver set wich is good for the beggining(don't know in future chapters...)
Legendary four  brothers for handing over your squishyness(bad thing that chapter 5 bosses aren't the physical type).
Golden Claws from the epic boss of chapter 2, for damage
Magic orb if possible or some other iten life centaur axe...

Good side:
Incredible dmg with it, magical and physical, prepared for any situation  [-)
Good agility and ultimate dmg for him

Bad side:
As you can see, he only loses his squishness on chapter 5, when he have the brothers set, but it won't do all the job for you, don't rely much on it.
Depending on you itens you choose, you will have only 950 - 1050 HP, and thats where phodom enters, but take care if he is disabled or dead in the moment you needs him.
You rely too much on phodom's tanking abilities...

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Re: Strategie Debate: What is you spell build?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 10:55:04 am »
That build sounds logical for me. However, Fradz needs at least great item that increases he's hit points or he will die too easily. It's hard to tank everything with Phodom.