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Resource and Steal Problem
« on: October 25, 2010, 02:16:29 am »
1)Can you lower the price for potions and foods?
Its a pain to buy like for example, 6 Small Mana pot for 120 gold you see.
Worse, the gold I earned from killing and quest were not sufficient for me to invest in item recipe.
Or, you just want us to buy some (MUST buy) items like Azureus, Margarath, Archeon's stuff and not other expensive things like recipes, other equipment items (health/mana belt, Jade Ring or items to make synthesis weapon)

Or, you want us to save so that we can buy it later in Chapter 5 or 7?

Or, is there any alternative ways in earning gold excluding killing and doing quest?

2) Stealing is hard -,-
I'm so frustrated trying to steal from Voldro and the Centaur Boss,
Can you tell me the stealing chance? And where to find any items which can increase steal chance?
Or can you increase the steal chance slightly?

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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 04:28:03 am »
1)Can you lower the price for potions and foods?
Its a pain to buy like for example, 6 Small Mana pot for 120 gold you see.
Worse, the gold I earned from killing and quest were not sufficient for me to invest in item recipe.
Or, you just want us to buy some (MUST buy) items like Azureus, Margarath, Archeon's stuff and not other expensive things like recipes, other equipment items (health/mana belt, Jade Ring or items to make synthesis weapon)

Or, you want us to save so that we can buy it later in Chapter 5 or 7?

Or, is there any alternative ways in earning gold excluding killing and doing quest?

2) Stealing is hard -,-
I'm so frustrated trying to steal from Voldro and the Centaur Boss,
Can you tell me the stealing chance? And where to find any items which can increase steal chance?
Or can you increase the steal chance slightly?

Look, in the early chapters you can forget synthesis, since you can't miss some set items. Later you get some from bosses that provide you with a good amount of bounty when you sell them.
About that stealing chance in chapter 2, try to get the item from Black Merchant first, it helps a lot.

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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 07:23:18 am »
About the price of potions and food, I don't have an answer. People who have played the campaign alot, can you please aid us and tell your opinion about the prices.

About those highly cost items, they are calculated correctly and the prices of them should be about what they currently are. The idea behind this is that they are actually for Elite and Epic Bosses. You don't need to have them to finish the chapters. They however make you a lot stronger.

Give up is the way to have more gold at the beginning of chapter. However, it's not currently possible because you can only us it in chapter 4 and above. The campaign currently holds chapters from one to three.

About stealing. It is must to have items to increase your chance to steal. Thief Set is made for chapter 2 because it can increase your steal chance. However, you couldn't have that set before because of a bug. That bug is fixed however at version 1.2a. Also, I have been lazy to do a system that shows actually what is your steal percent but I'll do someday(but still it doesn't show accurate because enemies have different steal chances)!
« Last Edit: October 25, 2010, 07:43:30 am by Aeroblyctos »

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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 08:44:28 am »

Look, in the early chapters you can forget synthesis, since you can't miss some set items. Later you get some from bosses that provide you with a good amount of bounty when you sell them.
About that stealing chance in chapter 2, try to get the item from Black Merchant first, it helps a lot.

Oh. Thx so much for sharing the hint

About those highly cost items, they are calculated correctly and the prices of them should be about what they currently are. The idea behind this is that they are actually for Elite and Epic Bosses. You don't need to have them to finish the chapters. They however make you a lot stronger.

Really? Great, now I'll just buy those set items instead of investing in synthesis items.

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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2010, 03:43:12 am »
About the price of potions and food, I don't have an answer. People who have played the campaign alot, can you please aid us and tell your opinion about the prices.

About those highly cost items, they are calculated correctly and the prices of them should be about what they currently are. The idea behind this is that they are actually for Elite and Epic Bosses. You don't need to have them to finish the chapters. They however make you a lot stronger.

Give up is the way to have more gold at the beginning of chapter. However, it's not currently possible because you can only us it in chapter 4 and above. The campaign currently holds chapters from one to three.

About stealing. It is must to have items to increase your chance to steal. Thief Set is made for chapter 2 because it can increase your steal chance. However, you couldn't have that set before because of a bug. That bug is fixed however at version 1.2a. Also, I have been lazy to do a system that shows actually what is your steal percent but I'll do someday(but still it doesn't show accurate because enemies have different steal chances)!

Hi. The price of potions is currently too high to be able to beat the ELITE and EPIC boss of ch 2 atm, but nowhere else, so just add a gold drop on scorpions. :) You could also lower the gold cost of vitality restoring items (bread, banans) cuz they're too high atm.

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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2010, 06:18:28 am »
Good idea indeed, i support u! ;D

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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2010, 07:39:48 am »
- Every unit that can respawn will not give gold. This campaign is not based on farming, instead it's meant to completing quests and finding secrets... But I have allowed "grinding" with that give up function.
- Are the food items that costly? Really? I could make them either cheaper or increase how much vitality they give.

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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2010, 09:32:13 am »
I suggest u to give up after killing all in ch4 if u want rlly a lot of cash. i have done it 2 times and now i have like 70k of gold o.O.

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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2010, 10:59:17 am »
Extreme mode?

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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2010, 11:37:15 am »
Synthesis and other items like item parts sets are supposed to be expensive. They are just good the way they are. If you handle over some items (like Chapter's 1 Lucky Clover) you can exchange for better ones. I have to did it to complete my item sets and sustain Phodom from starving...

However, food is way to expensive. 3 gold a banana is a robbery, and 10 for a bread it's just absurd. Their past prices (1 and 3 gold) where far better than that.

Potions are expensive - 20 gold for 300 mana recovery is bad -  but they aren't required to finish the chapter, normally. So they are similar to synthesis.

And you can aways be a "cheater" and use give up. It's really up to you (altough I guess in extreme is too difficult to finish without using at least a single give up...).
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Re: Resource and Steal Problem
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2010, 01:18:17 pm »
Okay I reduced Foods costs.