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How godlike do your characters feel?

Godlike!! Nothing stands a chance against me!
0 (0%)
Extremely powerful, even the epic and elite bosses feel a bit weak.
1 (20%)
Just right, I can kill stuff but there are some good fights in there.
3 (60%)
Underpowered, I keep dying... it's too hard!
1 (20%)

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Voting closed: September 25, 2011, 12:25:37 am

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AdmOrian

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How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« on: September 18, 2011, 12:25:37 am »
Hey I just started playing a fresh game on version 1.6c on extreme difficulty and enemies are feeling really weak... I was wondering if anyone is feeling like the power of the heroes has went Way up in the last version.

Some things that are feeling overpowered for me are.

Ground Zero basically does 2x the damage of other spells and feels insanely potent.
Volcanic Fissure can be cast at any range even with out Line of Site, making it overpowered at best, and exploitable in the extreme.
The fire elemental which wasn't viable is back and the most insane tank ever! My hero hardly ever takes a hit.
The combat kings are very 1337 and less expensive than ever before.

Anyway I want to hear what others think, maybe I am just too leet since I loaded a give up but it sure doesn't seem like that would account for it.

Edit: After fighting the elite and epic boss its feeling slightly challenging but its still a little bit easy especially for extreme.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2011, 03:35:38 am by AdmOrian »

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 03:55:23 am »
Playing on extreme aswell after using give up. I know what u mean with the imba feeling, chap 6 was like talking a walk with all the money and the items. Although i have to say, even with all items, things get tougher in chap 7! Some bosses still can kill u if u dont take care ;)

So overall I think Aero did find a good balance between too easy and impossible. The harder modes are still challenging even if I would suggest beginners to start with an easier difficulty. 

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 04:13:22 am »
Yeah well new systems means need to balance things again.

I really should play the campaign to actually test how things are... I admit I haven't played the campaign myself at all, just testing chapter 7 last half year. Does anyone know a good live stream site? I'm probably gonna live stream and play that would be fun and new.

Okay now about the problems....

Fire Elemental too overpowered? Finally someone actually uses it... But now it's too overpowered? What should I do? What combat kings are too powerful and why?

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 04:44:11 am »
The best one i know of (and free) would be justin tv.
no idea how you apply for it though.

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 09:26:11 am »
After a bit more testing the fire elemental is just to powerful to start with then it curves out nicely so that's fine, don't change it at all it's just good enough some people might use it. After playing a bit more there are some easy fights and some hard fights with this particular play style but all in all it turns out to Highly gear dependent and a bit glass cannon.

So now I feel the difficulty would be just right Except for a few tweaks needed to stealing and digging, combat stealing especially can be a bit tough because you really would rather not sacrifice firepower.

P.S. I got my fire elemental to level 8 and was disappointed not to see a new move like I did at level 4! Loved 2 things about the elemental though, 1 the level 4 spell was awesome, 2 there was actual incentive to level it up it's a little lame not wanting to level spells up for the most part because the damage gain is so small and thus rarely outweighs the cost of highly mana usage, although I do level certain spells.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2011, 09:30:54 am by AdmOrian »

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 01:42:40 pm »
Here's the list of Fire Summon's stats and abilities:

Effect increases by level. Every level of the ability increases the attack damage by 20, the hit points by 300, the hit point regeneration by 5 per second and abilities damage.

Attack Damage: abilvl abilvlx20
   => Lvl 1: 20
   => Lvl 10: 100
   => Lvl 20: 200

Hit Point Regeneration: abilvlx5
   => Lvl 1: 5
   => Lvl 10: 50
   => Lvl 20: 100

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 04:33:15 pm »
Oh, ok my elemental is bugged I ranked that spell to level 12 and only got 1 extra spell. [0,2] First - Path Of Flames at level 4 and then nothing more.

I regards to the combat kings they aren't overpowered they are just really leet and give some big edges its like a 2-3 more items worth of power.

Love life steal, love magic torrent even on low mana characters because it boosts damage and thus life stolen, berserk is really nice because unless they are doing insanely more damage than you are regenerating from your attacks then you will recover more as your health drops and just kill them faster! I got my attack speed up to 3 attacks per second base dealing about 2-3k per hit between effects and base damage not even counting crits. So I heal a lot :)

Although you will be happy to know as pl4ton said things get really intense in chapter 7 my tank actually died in 1 of the solo arena matches when the dude shot out his nearly instant kill flame spell that follows you.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2011, 04:44:34 pm by AdmOrian »

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2011, 03:46:15 am »
Okay I'll fix the summon.

So I'm not sure now. Is there anything that is unbalanced or not?

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2011, 12:45:26 pm »
It just felt leet to start with on the difficulty I was playing things got nice and insane so it's actually great as is! Great job.

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 01:20:06 am »
Okay, we'll see that soon. Tomorrow or day after tomorrow I'll be playing the campaign in live stream. If you hear a lot of raging from me it means things are not quite right.  [-)

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Re: How Godlike Are Your Heroes Feeling???
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 12:37:30 pm »
haha, now that would be funny! But I think you will love your campaign :)